Swing and a miss then eh... lol oh well I really like the way this one is going, out of interest what areas did I have more accurately before? And is there anything on this one that is right that wasnt on my last atempt
Most of the problems are around the proportions of the individual parts and the shapes of some of the parts. Each is reasonable in its own right, but there are a number of places that just aren't right. Your first go was good when you consider the lack of reference material, but the second go is a lot further away - have another look at the top view from the earliest captured images in the thread and you will see some big differences
lol, the only thing people want back on the model is the one thing the ship actually dosnt have... 6 engines . Just so we all know, Officially Valkyrie only has four engines. I will however leave my origional model with the six engines just because it seems to be the fan favorite as well as make this one both rollbar on and off.:thumb:
If you really wanna get nitty and gritty about it, technically the Valkyrie is the ONLY ship that had 6 engines on it and no roll back, the ones from Razor are a different class alltogether. There's plenty of shots from "Hero" that show the valkyries engine module and none of them show the roll bar or only 4.
There's plenty of shots from "Hero" that show the valkyries engine module and none of them show the roll bar or only 4.
Which is why my original model still has no roll bar and six engines. If it would make everyone feel better we can refer to this one from razor as the Valkyrie MKII class.
If you really wanna get nitty and gritty about it, technically the Valkyrie is the ONLY ship that had 6 engines on it and no roll back, the ones from Razor are a different class alltogether. There's plenty of shots from "Hero" that show the valkyries engine module and none of them show the roll bar or only 4.
The Valkyrie as seen in Hero has four engines. Trust me on this one. Four, not six.
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well, then, spudmonkey, If thats the case, then how come I make out 6 exhausts in that pic infinity posted?
if the Valkyrie does indeed have 4, and not 6 engines, as you suggest, then I submit, that the majority of those of us claiming to see 6 engines are in fact in need of an eye exam, and possible counseling with regards to hallucinations.
I too have a rather extensive collection of shots from that episode, I will see what I can dig up thats post worthy.
the fact that theres tubular sections extending out past the areas with the 'drive glow, and the other fact that these tubes are also in line with the visibly lit engines?
I see 6 nacelles on Infinity's last screenshot post, i dont know people are claiming the other two are missing. This isn't a straight on top shot, you can clearly see two nacelles mirroring the top two.
Unless spudmonkey's source has let him see the original studio mesh.
the fact that theres tubular sections extending out past the areas with the 'drive glow, and the other fact that these tubes are also in line with the visibly lit engines?
repeat after me Radier, there are five lights- sorry i mean four engines!
BTW: is it me, or does the ship look like a flat fish? Sort of buldge out in the middle and then become thin ate the end? ... ... must be me then :shiner:
im sorry, until someone can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, Im gonna have to trust my eyes and instincts, call me stubborne, call me a brainless buffoon if it makes you feel better.
I swear, there's 6 engines, not 5 not 2 not 4, S I X.
you want to prove me completely wrong, then pony up some proof somehow.
use pm if you worried about NDA's, or email works.
just prove me wrong, with actual can stare it down till im blind proof.
there, I feel better, now that I've gotten that 'little' rant done with.
Rollbar on, Rollbar off. How about you can decide when you download it. As for me I'm diggin the rollbar.:D
I've fixed alot of the proportion issues, changed the size/shape of the flight pods, adjusted the head, fixed up the engines, altered the body shape slightly, so It should match up better now.
im sorry, until someone can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, Im gonna have to trust my eyes and instincts, call me stubborne, call me a brainless buffoon if it makes you feel better.
I swear, there's 6 engines, not 5 not 2 not 4, S I X.
I'll leave the insults to other people. Perhaps if you highlight on the image where the 6 engines are then I can point out why you are wrong. Alternatively I could just say that this
^The extention out might be, for all we know, just part of the engine design. While I like the prospect of 6 engines, we can only confirm 4.
is a damned good guess, but that assumes that those are the parts that are making you see the phantom engines...
Until I get permission, which I am actively seeking, I cannot post proof of what I say. Sorry, but that's what an NDA is and any images or material I may or may not have is currently publically unavailable
I can only see 4, and I think you need to lose the anti-roll bar.
Andy, if he is now working on the variant seen in Razor then the rollbar should stay, and with the effort that has gone into these "two" I would say both versions should be worked on, especially as Infinity seems to like it
Andy, if he is now working on the variant seen in Razor then the rollbar should stay, and with the effort that has gone into these "two" I would say both versions should be worked on, especially as Infinity seems to like it
Sure, It was meant purely as a personal preference.
And now for something completely different.....
Have you made any guesses as to how long this is compared to the Galactica? 1/2? 2/3? I haven't seen the Razor pics so I don't know if that clears it up or not.
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Most of the problems are around the proportions of the individual parts and the shapes of some of the parts. Each is reasonable in its own right, but there are a number of places that just aren't right. Your first go was good when you consider the lack of reference material, but the second go is a lot further away - have another look at the top view from the earliest captured images in the thread and you will see some big differences
If you really wanna get nitty and gritty about it, technically the Valkyrie is the ONLY ship that had 6 engines on it and no roll back, the ones from Razor are a different class alltogether. There's plenty of shots from "Hero" that show the valkyries engine module and none of them show the roll bar or only 4.
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The Valkyrie as seen in Hero has four engines. Trust me on this one. Four, not six.
if the Valkyrie does indeed have 4, and not 6 engines, as you suggest, then I submit, that the majority of those of us claiming to see 6 engines are in fact in need of an eye exam, and possible counseling with regards to hallucinations.
I too have a rather extensive collection of shots from that episode, I will see what I can dig up thats post worthy.
Then you're seeing things.
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Unless spudmonkey's source has let him see the original studio mesh.
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repeat after me Radier, there are five lights- sorry i mean four engines!
BTW: is it me, or does the ship look like a flat fish? Sort of buldge out in the middle and then become thin ate the end? ... ... must be me then :shiner:
Great work so far Infinity :thumb:
He can if he likes....with the consequences there of.
I swear, there's 6 engines, not 5 not 2 not 4, S I X.
you want to prove me completely wrong, then pony up some proof somehow.
use pm if you worried about NDA's, or email works.
just prove me wrong, with actual can stare it down till im blind proof.
there, I feel better, now that I've gotten that 'little' rant done with.
moving on.........
I've fixed alot of the proportion issues, changed the size/shape of the flight pods, adjusted the head, fixed up the engines, altered the body shape slightly, so It should match up better now.
I'll leave the insults to other people. Perhaps if you highlight on the image where the 6 engines are then I can point out why you are wrong. Alternatively I could just say that this
is a damned good guess, but that assumes that those are the parts that are making you see the phantom engines...
Until I get permission, which I am actively seeking, I cannot post proof of what I say. Sorry, but that's what an NDA is and any images or material I may or may not have is currently publically unavailable
Andy, if he is now working on the variant seen in Razor then the rollbar should stay, and with the effort that has gone into these "two" I would say both versions should be worked on, especially as Infinity seems to like it
Sure, It was meant purely as a personal preference.
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let's give it a rest, and let Infinity build it how he likes
(checks medicine bottle)
Oooh, 2 pills every 8 hours, not 8 pills every 2 hours.
That explains a lot!!
Seriously, I prefer it with the rollbar, canon, non-canon or whatever.
Why?
Because without the rollbar the damn thing looks entirely too much like MegaMaid!
Excellent work on the Valk, tho! Keep it up, and in the end, she's yer shippie. Slap two-hundred and seventeen engines on her if you want!
Sanderlee.
Nice work on the new version Infinity, I like it. And the rollbar is growing on me also. Keep it up.
Yay I was quoted!
Have you made any guesses as to how long this is compared to the Galactica? 1/2? 2/3? I haven't seen the Razor pics so I don't know if that clears it up or not.