I always liked Seans Titan design, so itA’s time I start my own model of her. I will stay as close as possible to the design and will stay in contact with Sean to make sure itA’s done right.
So hereA’s the start - nacelle and pylons first, as they are the easier part... Now itA’s on to the saucer and secondary hull, the more complicated parts...
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But looking back on it now that Star Trek Online has created the Enterprise "F" I realize that all my criticisms on Sean's design paled in comparisons. I only wish STO committee had as much good taste the Simon & Schuster as the group.
Have you ever though about modeling the Doomsday Machine?
Curious... has the Luna class ever been approved as an actual cannon class? I thought at one point that they were pitching a series with Riker and the Titan, but haven't heard anything.
Personally after reading the books and their realism I think of them as canon...much of the restart of DS9 and VOY from Avatar/Homecoming is thought of as canon (and I think Pocket Books Potrayed them as such and has been conducting a sort of orchestration of the involved characters like Tuvok.
The question is: does the old convention of "canon" really matter anymore? Depends on your point of view. CBS/Paramount has put everything into JJ Abrams' reboots, so there will be no more classic Trek as long as those movies are doing well. So, the odds of the Titan ever being used (as Sean designed it) are probably a billion to one. As Saquist said, by the old standard, canon only referred to stuff that appeared on the shows and in the films. However, with no more classic Trek being made, I think canon is what you want it to be. This ship certainly has a presence in Trek books, comics and games of late, (and other stuff too) so you could consider it canon. After all, the expanded universe (books, comics, games, fan films, etc.) are all that we have anymore as far as classic Trek, besides the stuff we have that existed prior to CBS/Paramount shutting it down. And, as we know, the Titan was mentioned but never seen in the last movie that was made prior to the reboot. So, do you consider it canon? That's the real question. As far as I'm concerned, it is. After all, I've played Star Trek Online as a science officer and I've had an inaccurate Luna-class ship. That's as close to canon as we get anymore.
I agree, a lot of the novels should be canon more than some of the more questionable official studio stuff.
The modern Trek novels do tend to be good, and some of them even have much better TOS compatibility than anything Paramount has come up with since. Diane DuaneAâs Rihannsu books are a good example of that; she Aâwent to the sourceAâ and worked closely with D.C. Fontana on fleshing out the race the Federation calls the Romulans in a way that actually makes sense instead of the wildly different each time you see them Paramount ones.
IAâve heard the policy of only studio productions being canon was a case of not wanting to ride herd on all the publishing companies and sort through the rather large body of material already out there when Paramount decided to actually resurrect what they thought of as a dead series. The very early books ran from really good and thoughtful ones to collections of incredibly bad Mary Sue stories (in fact the term AâMary SueAâ itself comes from a spoof of those bad ones) and it would have taken hiring someone to go through all of it which Paramount did not want to do.
I haven't read any post-Nemesis novel yet, they're on my list for when I can acquire an international credit card again.
How is the 6ft model? Do you know where it's being stored.
(P.S can't wait to see the Luna in dock with other ships....(hint hint Tobias)
here's some pics of my handywork, also got Sean's imput, so its as accurate as I could make it.
https://picasaweb.google.com/114583233071020613327/USSTitanLunaClass#
and heres all the refs i got, some stuff from Sean as well.. especially the captains yacht.
https://picasaweb.google.com/114583233071020613327/LunaRefs
... eng hull is a pita to get right, so good luck with it!
looking forward to some great stuff!! and looking forward to it being docked at DS9!
Hey you did a fantastic job on yours. No problems from me. I love seeing everyones take on the design. They all have to be better that the one in Star Trek Online.
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yeah the "cranked arrow" saucer shape took me a few times to get right
looking good!, and have fun with the eng hull! ( took me atleast 20 tries to get the darn thing looking good!)
That will come in handy, I am going to start texturing it soon now that I have it converted to Lightwave.
Tobias, I'll be keeping an eye on this. I'd love to see this in a shot with your DS9 and Defiant models.
I looked up Sean T's sight. I was shocked that it's official (for an unofficial ship) speed was warp 9.99! An it doesn't have a saucer even remotely similary to Voyager and none of it's advances. Maybe a case of advances for the sake of advances. I wish they'd look at thing with a bit more tech savvy.
I have to agree. The oddness of the frontal end of the saucer is arguably the only thing I don't like about this ship, I wonder why its like that.
You could always ask Sean.
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how many times did it take you to get it right? ( mine.. 15 times.. literaly!)