I do hope the harder edged struts are a permanent element or something similar to it. The originals organic form just clashed too much with all the flat areas and hard shapes elsewhere.
Are you talking about the struts in the indented portion of the nose? Or the Pylons to the engines?
Issues with detachable this that and the moon means at some point all your interior space is all bulkheads and redundant engineering and support spaces. All the benefits of this design would be solved with a squad of ships or a carrier with medium sized aux craft. Such as 50 runabouts all fitted out with weapons and power systems vs stowage bunks and anything but 2 chairs.
Best way I have seen this expressed. When you're right, your're right. A carrier would be way more devastating.
I think the upper secondary hull ship has them on the back of the delta (ribbed bits) the lower one has something on the struts as well as similar ribbed details on the thin delta head it has as well. Dunno how much drive can be squashed into such a thin segment that looks to be 1/4 a deck thick. But heh.
Yeah, I've looked at that and there is just NO WAY. It doesn't work.
The gallery is using the studio model the larger orthos are the same ones that were scaled down and combined into the sheets found at ex-astris. Those are from ST the mag from way back when. I cannot be positive but I think the larger single image ones came from Dougs site. If you compare the images they are the same and yes, this is typical of VOY 3d models. It is funny how different they look in the show but at 320p basically well it hides a lot. (well 480i fully interlaced so they are really only rendering out 240vertical.) But I think the physical renders were 320 then scaled to 480 and hard interlaced. I dunno why they did this vs dropdown that retains the full scan height data. Anyhow rambling. (deleted some of it lol)
SOV = Sovereign class partially as ff keeps wanting to change it into some Swedish name.
Hey @MadKoiFish - I gotta say I sure appreciate your help and suggestions all these years. No one can argue that you don't know what you are doing and personally you have been helpful and supportive.
In the image above there is only a slight rounding of the leading and trailing edges on the struts to the engines. They were like that the first time you mentioned it so it worked out.
Yeah I placed them where the images have them. Like we've all said, not much room after 3 warp cores, extra bulkheads and exterior armor plating on 3 separate ships. Either that or she's like the Titanic. Not enough life boats.
So far I have the bottom and top halves (you can see the gap beyond the impulse engine). I kinda hate the separated saucer, so just mulling over what to do for now. As a start, I have modeled an underside bridge, having loved the bridge on the Shenzhou. That's the start of a Soverign class deflector. I'm just realizing I need to add a formidable-looking photon torpedo launcher in there somewhere.
In case it finally does drive you nuts, as I previously mentioned, you did say this was a 1.1 Prometheus, and not a 1.0 Prometheus. I mean, if you want to think of it one way, go the STO route, where the triple-hull thing was flat out removed on many in the class (resulting in a 'solid hull' sub-class).
Looking good.
But I would make one change with the lower bridge.
That is lose the windows. It a stupid idea in Kelvin Films and Current Trek.
With this being a ship built to take on the Borg and the Dominion, your not going to want windows that are easy target to take out part of your command staff.
Looking good.
With this being a ship built to take on the Borg and the Dominion, your not going to want windows that are easy target to take out part of your command staff.
Good point. Definitely wrong era ship for bridge windows. I guess what I was thinking was that being on the underside of the saucers they were a tad protected since beings used to gravity tended to think of attacking from above. However, experts at space battle wouldn't think that way.
I hate to say it, but me too. Not because I am so great, but because I'VE LOOKED and they just aren't out there. People just don't model this ship, much like they don't do the Niagara Class. There is a potential best model in one done by The Lightworks Group (probably Tobias Richter) for a paperback novel about the Prometheus. However, there are no orthos and in the few cover shots you can find, it is pretty clear to me that HE took liberties on the design like I did. Admittedly I've taken more. One thing I knew I wasn't going to mess with is the wavy contour of the saucer under those two lateral plates with the 5 "speed bumps" on them. I believe Tobias dropped that too. His model is more like mine there.
As far as the ship, I thought it was passable to attractive in design. Once again, having done it, I'm finding it quite sleek and attractive.
BTW I've become completely convinced it should have been designed to split into two pieces with some kind of agile fighter in the recess behind the bridge where the scrawny warp engine now lies. It would have been much more agile and formidable than an under-powered clunky saucer section.
Just started UV mapping and playing with the color tint of the ship. Opinion needed. Should I make the escape pods a tad smaller? I suppose that depends on how many people they're designed to hold.
I've begun to think of the windowed Shenzhou-ish bridge on the bottom as either a nightclub for crew or a bridge for docking the upper and lower halves of the ship. The battle bridge for the lower half will probably be on top of its "saucer" which is where it was originally I presume.
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SOV? I know I should be able to think what this abbreviation means but I'm dull on it right now.
Are you talking about the struts in the indented portion of the nose? Or the Pylons to the engines?
Best way I have seen this expressed. When you're right, your're right. A carrier would be way more devastating.
SOV = Sovereign class partially as ff keeps wanting to change it into some Swedish name.
The struts to nacelles
In the image above there is only a slight rounding of the leading and trailing edges on the struts to the engines. They were like that the first time you mentioned it so it worked out.
But I would make one change with the lower bridge.
That is lose the windows. It a stupid idea in Kelvin Films and Current Trek.
With this being a ship built to take on the Borg and the Dominion, your not going to want windows that are easy target to take out part of your command staff.
As far as the ship, I thought it was passable to attractive in design. Once again, having done it, I'm finding it quite sleek and attractive.
At any rate, thanks to both of you.
I've begun to think of the windowed Shenzhou-ish bridge on the bottom as either a nightclub for crew or a bridge for docking the upper and lower halves of the ship. The battle bridge for the lower half will probably be on top of its "saucer" which is where it was originally I presume.