Tag: 0000 011453-4000150
Type: automated asteroid miner
Status: working
Location: Gagnlegar Rok asteroid belt
(Orion 031.70-00074.93)
Culture: Ratatoskr
Est. Age: 95 thousand years
Size: 221 M DIA
Nickname: Neytendaadstodin
Tag: 0000 061780-3271127
Type: long range shuttle
Status: disabled / abandoned
Location: Coscollos Furi Battlefield
(Orion 000.33-313158.01)
Culture: Coscollos
Est. Age: 8.6 million years
Size: 135m
Nickname: Piccolo Maglio
The basic shape of the bow is set, and the aft is blocked out.
Not strictly regarding your ship but i thought i'd say this anyway:
That cool new GIF you have as an avatar, it will look cool and awesome right up until the day someone uses it as a loading icon, or "please wait for..." graphic. Perhaps you might be that someone, let me warn you now, you will immediately hate that animation if you ever use it to replace an hourglass icon on your comouter.
New ship looks interesting, is it going to be able to separate into the forward and aft sections?
Thanks. I've actually used this avatar before. I drew the parts in CAD, made a flash animation from the parts, and saved it as a GIF. I tend not to replace anything in Windows. It's too much of a resource hog as it is.
No separation for this ship. It's a bit too small of a ship for that.
Took a break from starship doodling to re-make my website. ( www.rogerrenfrow.com )
Looks like I need to rescale a bunch of the images. Strangely, the images show up larger when stored on the network, than they do stored locally. There's a few layout issues too.
I'm going back to revisit a ship I did a while back. It's based technology from the Humanx Commonwealth Books by Alan Dean Foster. It's called the Aleksandr. It's a luxury yacht, and one of the few ships I've done that didn't come completely from my imagination.
I'm going back to revisit a ship I did a while back. It's based technology from the Humanx Commonwealth Books by Alan Dean Foster. It's called the Aleksandr. It's a luxury yacht, and one of the few ships I've done that didn't come completely from my imagination.
You should have done Maxim Malaika's ship, the Glory Hole
Interesting take on the KK-drive. My understanding was that it was a solid concave surface. However, seeing as how I get my own questions* about the accuracy of my ships from the Honorverse, I'm not going to be picky about how you interpret the doublekay drive.
Don't know if you've seen these, but Foster's website has some very basic (and very small) drawings of KK-drive ships: http://www.alandeanfoster.com/version2.0/frameset.htm Click on the yellow links on the left for the art.
Good, fun series. I go back and re-read it occasionally.
*Actually, it's more like people nitpicking because they think they know more about how the ships should look than I do, when I have a direct line to the author himself as to what his ships look like and what they do. For a perfect example of what I mean, read the comments here: http://maxxqbunine.deviantart.com/art/RolandClassDD-004-471275665
Yeah, that's one of the many reasons I try not to interpret other people's work. "You did it wrong. The quantum-snot projector is 2cm too far to the right".
I actually visited Foster's website, looking for any updates on the ships, before I decided to re-visit the Aleksandr. I've always thought Foster missed a chance with his ships. It's hard to make a 'plunger in space with a balloon on the end' graceful, or majestic. The idea for the Posigravity (K-K, Double-K, Kurita-Kinosh ita) drive (how many authors give one thing multiple names?) needs a bit of flair that a plunger in space doesn't give.
Yeah, that's one of the many reasons I try not to interpret other people's work. "You did it wrong. The quantum-snot projector is 2cm too far to the right".
I actually visited Foster's website, looking for any updates on the ships, before I decided to re-visit the Aleksandr. I've always thought Foster missed a chance with his ships. It's hard to make a 'plunger in space with a balloon on the end' graceful, or majestic. The idea for the Posigravity (K-K, Double-K, Kurita-Kinosh ita) drive (how many authors give one thing multiple names?) needs a bit of flair that a plunger in space doesn't give.
No kidding. I tried to sketch a design out about thirty years ago, and it ended up just looking silly. At least with your design, it is definitely interesting, and I mean that in a good way.
At least you don't have to deal with people commenting on your ships looking like dildos. :rolleyes:
I haven't read any of Foster's non-Trek books, so I have to ask: Is it supposed to look like a sperm? I'm not trying to be funny or anything, I'm asking a serious question, because that's what it reminds me of.
I haven't read any of Foster's non-Trek books, so I have to ask: Is it supposed to look like a sperm? I'm not trying to be funny or anything, I'm asking a serious question, because that's what it reminds me of.
First off, the front end is the open area - the four "prongs" Rogren has modeled. It generates a gravity well that the ship is drawn to, moving it forward, which then moves the gravity well forward, ad infinitum.
And what it's supposed to look like is exactly what Rogren mentioned above - a plumber's helper with a balloon stuck on the end of the handle. For general cargo and warships, the balloon is more or less spherical. For more luxurious or high-speed vessels, the design is a bit more elongated, with the drive projector looking more like a champagne glass, and the habitable end being a bit more streamlined.
2001's Discovery has been likened to sperm as well.
First off, the front end is the open area - the three "prongs" Rogren has modeled. It generates a gravity well that the ship is drawn to, moving it forward, which then moves the gravity well forward, ad infinitum.
And what it's supposed to look like is exactly what Rogren mentioned above - a plumber's helper with a balloon stuck on the end of the handle. For general cargo and warships, the balloon is more or less spherical. For more luxurious or high-speed vessels, the design is a bit more elongated, with the drive projector looking more like a champagne glass, and the habitable end being a bit more streamlined.
2001's Discovery has been likened to sperm as well.
There are many phallic ship designs.
I was just curious. Thanks for the explanation. It doesn't really look like a plunger to me, but I get where rojren was trying to make it look cool while, at the same time, make it true to the description in the book.
Great job on the modeling as usual, rojren. :thumb:
Tell me... have you seen Flesh Gordon? No, that's *not* a typo.
The actual description in the series has the projector area as a full "bowl", and not pronged like Roj's, so that may be where you're missing the plunger resemblance. It's also supposed to be a much shallower bowl than his design would indicate.
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Tag: 0000 011453-4000150
Type: automated asteroid miner
Status: working
Location: Gagnlegar Rok asteroid belt
(Orion 031.70-00074.93)
Culture: Ratatoskr
Est. Age: 95 thousand years
Size: 221 M DIA
Nickname: Neytendaadstodin
Tag: 0000 061780-3271127
Type: long range shuttle
Status: disabled / abandoned
Location: Coscollos Furi Battlefield
(Orion 000.33-313158.01)
Culture: Coscollos
Est. Age: 8.6 million years
Size: 135m
Nickname: Piccolo Maglio
The basic shape of the bow is set, and the aft is blocked out.
Added windows, dock, escape hatch, and some stuff you can't see.
Even so, it's looking good so far.
That cool new GIF you have as an avatar, it will look cool and awesome right up until the day someone uses it as a loading icon, or "please wait for..." graphic. Perhaps you might be that someone, let me warn you now, you will immediately hate that animation if you ever use it to replace an hourglass icon on your comouter.
New ship looks interesting, is it going to be able to separate into the forward and aft sections?
No separation for this ship. It's a bit too small of a ship for that.
Looks like I need to rescale a bunch of the images. Strangely, the images show up larger when stored on the network, than they do stored locally. There's a few layout issues too.
The ship is looking good. Though, to be honest, it's not my favorite of your designs. It looks like a hand tool or something.
I guess that one's done.
I'm going back to revisit a ship I did a while back. It's based technology from the Humanx Commonwealth Books by Alan Dean Foster. It's called the Aleksandr. It's a luxury yacht, and one of the few ships I've done that didn't come completely from my imagination.
You should have done Maxim Malaika's ship, the Glory Hole
Interesting take on the KK-drive. My understanding was that it was a solid concave surface. However, seeing as how I get my own questions* about the accuracy of my ships from the Honorverse, I'm not going to be picky about how you interpret the doublekay drive.
Don't know if you've seen these, but Foster's website has some very basic (and very small) drawings of KK-drive ships: http://www.alandeanfoster.com/version2.0/frameset.htm Click on the yellow links on the left for the art.
Good, fun series. I go back and re-read it occasionally.
*Actually, it's more like people nitpicking because they think they know more about how the ships should look than I do, when I have a direct line to the author himself as to what his ships look like and what they do. For a perfect example of what I mean, read the comments here: http://maxxqbunine.deviantart.com/art/RolandClassDD-004-471275665
I actually visited Foster's website, looking for any updates on the ships, before I decided to re-visit the Aleksandr. I've always thought Foster missed a chance with his ships. It's hard to make a 'plunger in space with a balloon on the end' graceful, or majestic. The idea for the Posigravity (K-K, Double-K, Kurita-Kinosh ita) drive (how many authors give one thing multiple names?) needs a bit of flair that a plunger in space doesn't give.
No kidding. I tried to sketch a design out about thirty years ago, and it ended up just looking silly. At least with your design, it is definitely interesting, and I mean that in a good way.
At least you don't have to deal with people commenting on your ships looking like dildos. :rolleyes:
First off, the front end is the open area - the four "prongs" Rogren has modeled. It generates a gravity well that the ship is drawn to, moving it forward, which then moves the gravity well forward, ad infinitum.
And what it's supposed to look like is exactly what Rogren mentioned above - a plumber's helper with a balloon stuck on the end of the handle. For general cargo and warships, the balloon is more or less spherical. For more luxurious or high-speed vessels, the design is a bit more elongated, with the drive projector looking more like a champagne glass, and the habitable end being a bit more streamlined.
2001's Discovery has been likened to sperm as well.
There are many phallic ship designs.
I was just curious. Thanks for the explanation. It doesn't really look like a plunger to me, but I get where rojren was trying to make it look cool while, at the same time, make it true to the description in the book.
Great job on the modeling as usual, rojren. :thumb:
No! Really? I'm shocked... SHOCKED I tell you!
Tell me... have you seen Flesh Gordon? No, that's *not* a typo.
The actual description in the series has the projector area as a full "bowl", and not pronged like Roj's, so that may be where you're missing the plunger resemblance. It's also supposed to be a much shallower bowl than his design would indicate.