regarding your 0225 13th aug post
that "shark look" is much too strong, you need to change some things to stop that, and crucially get rid of those things that look like eyes from this angle.
on the latest pics the top is ok but i think the logo does more harm than good to the underside.
Suggestions are one thing, but you may want to be cautious about saying somebody "needs" to do something. It's up to rojren what needs to be done, as this is his build. You would like to see those changes, but rojren might not agree.
I always thought the emblem looks like a face, I just figured it was intentional. It reminds me a bit of the Spawn emblem.
It was sort of like: okay, a dot for a green world... some circles, offset some of them, trim some of them...hope I'm not copying anything unintentionally... good enough, and done. Look at it sideways a few days later... oh, look... a face.
I don't mind suggestions, in fact I welcome them. In this case, though: 1. since the shark look was unintentional, 2. I'm planning another version of this ship anyway, 3. I don't mind the shark look. 4. the eyes were for humor's sake. I'm not going to worry about it one way or the other.
...I just personally don't like to tell people that they need to do something....
Eh. Some people just phrase things that way.
I don't really notice it. Although I will admit when one of my friends talks to his sons that way it drives me nuts. I tell him make observations and suggestions, not decrees. He has a hard time understanding the friction he's causing.
I completely agree with Evil Genius, there. It really is an "angle-specific" ship. That first shot has a serious armed, racing-boat feel to it. The second shot, much less so.
Excellent work, as always. The texture of the hull (almost chromed steel) adds to the thing quite nicely ... though if its a derelict shouldn't it be scuffed a bit? :devil:
sorry for saying "needs", it's just that those "eyes" dropped the design into the realms of hilarity. the latest images look better, making the logo symmetrical has helped a lot. the extra greebles are quite nice, especially the "blue glowy ones" behind the gold and white "domes". i wouldn't say this is a one angle ship, there are several angles from which it looks quite cool, but there are also some angles to avoid. by the way it may help to show more pictures with perspective turned on, i don't know about you but i find looking at something, let alone modelling, rather tricky when there is no perspective effect turned on. loads of people seem to have their 3d programs set up to show "orthographic" or "parallel projection" but i find it really distracting and confusing except in pure "3 view" images.
...i wouldn't say this is a one angle ship, there are several angles from which it looks quite cool, but there are also some angles to avoid. by the way it may help to show more pictures with perspective turned on, i don't know about you but i find looking at something, let alone modelling, rather tricky when there is no perspective effect turned on. loads of people seem to have their 3d programs set up to show "orthographic" or "parallel projection" but i find it really distracting and confusing except in pure "3 view" images.
Actually, the perspective is turned on on this one. This shape doesn't show it off very well though
This is going to sound a bit, erm, perverse but ...
Remember how the ship in Battle Beyond the Stars, Nell, was inspired by a busty woman lying on her stomach and arching her back? Well, let's just say the second shot looks quite a bit like the reverse. :devil:
Space is also dirty and stuff will inevitably impact with and accumulate on your hull. However, as you said, textures are the best way to show that.
space is quite clean and a purely interplanetary vehicle will look outwardly like it did the day if left the "factory" except for any forward whipple shields. entering an atmosphere makes things dirty, and hot exhaust plumes near metal in an atmosphere can cause oxidation (walking round aviation museums you often see titanium parts around jet nozzles multicoloured due to this oxidation) but outside of an atmosphere and away from dense areas of micrometeorites or the surface of dusty moon like worlds ships stay clean. dirt makes things more believable to the eye (and does a great job of covering imperfections in modelling) but is unlikely on a pure exo-atmo ship, it's one of those cases where "reality is unrealistic". the latest design hasn't got far enough yet for me to really know what i think of it.
Technically, we're both correct. There are parts of space that are dirty. Debris from planetary explosions, asteroids, comets, etc. does float through space and it would endlessly except for occasions where it runs into something, like a planet. Crap from space hits this planet all the time. However, for the most part it would be clean.
This is the reversed version mentioned by Sanderlee. It's the smallest of this series.
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Escher and Lovecraft? Okay. Is that good? I know Escher, but I'm pretty unfamiliar with Lovecraft.
Interesting how you use the same basic shape three ways. Very nice.
And Lovecraft, well, that would be Cthulhu and the rest of the Mythos. Dark fiction based on the concept that knowledge and insanity are related ... as in to know too much is to be insane or driven so. Good stuff, if a bit dated for many present-day readers.
I've read tons of 'classic' SF&F and I've read a significant number that redefines 'obscure', but still I'm always amazed with how much 'classic' stuff I missed.
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I just noticed. From this angle the 'emblem' looks like a caricature of an alien face.
that "shark look" is much too strong, you need to change some things to stop that, and crucially get rid of those things that look like eyes from this angle.
on the latest pics the top is ok but i think the logo does more harm than good to the underside.
I always thought the emblem looks like a face, I just figured it was intentional.
I don't mind suggestions, in fact I welcome them. In this case, though: 1. since the shark look was unintentional, 2. I'm planning another version of this ship anyway, 3. I don't mind the shark look. 4. the eyes were for humor's sake. I'm not going to worry about it one way or the other.
I don't really notice it. Although I will admit when one of my friends talks to his sons that way it drives me nuts. I tell him make observations and suggestions, not decrees. He has a hard time understanding the friction he's causing.
Anyway, I think this version is done.
Excellent work, as always. The texture of the hull (almost chromed steel) adds to the thing quite nicely ... though if its a derelict shouldn't it be scuffed a bit? :devil:
They used really good wax.
I did a ship with some impact damage - I guess it was a couple of years back http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/showthread.php?78949-Derelict-ships&p=559233&viewfull=1#post559233
Space is vast, and not all luck is bad. (If I ever get around to texturing, and rendering any of these, I'l add some scuffs and such.)
Actually, the perspective is turned on on this one. This shape doesn't show it off very well though
Space is also dirty and stuff will inevitably impact with and accumulate on your hull.
Remember how the ship in Battle Beyond the Stars, Nell, was inspired by a busty woman lying on her stomach and arching her back? Well, let's just say the second shot looks quite a bit like the reverse. :devil:
Or, maybe I just have a really naughty mind.
I like the overall shape so far.
What about reversing it? The spine is the tail, the windows the beginnings of drive units, and the open area the bow?
Either way, this is quite cool!
This one's quite a bit smaller than the first one, evil_genius_180. Not too small though. The windows are about 3 meters tall.
Added some weapons, markings and a mission-specific-module.
I didn't mean it in a negative way, I was just making an observation.
I didn't take it negatively... Why do people think I take things negATIVELY??? AAAARRRGHHH!!!
Anyway...
*backs out slowly, avoiding eye contact and sudden movement*
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Escher and Lovecraft? Okay. Is that good? I know Escher, but I'm pretty unfamiliar with Lovecraft.
And Lovecraft, well, that would be Cthulhu and the rest of the Mythos. Dark fiction based on the concept that knowledge and insanity are related ... as in to know too much is to be insane or driven so. Good stuff, if a bit dated for many present-day readers.
I've read tons of 'classic' SF&F and I've read a significant number that redefines 'obscure', but still I'm always amazed with how much 'classic' stuff I missed.
Added some colors and some things.