Hey this is great work! Easily rivals the one I'm working on, especially in the fine/small details. I think you also have a more accurate and cleaner model too. I like your approach to the pearlescent look. I did something similar, but I instead used a noisy, varying pastel color texture across all white metallic surfaces. I might try and test your method on my project and see how it works:)
Hey this is great work! Easily rivals the one I'm working on, especially in the fine/small details.
You both have beautiful refits, beautiful interiors and nice details, but both of you also have the nacelle shape wrong. Seems everyone is missing that point, or just not mentioning it for some reason.
You both have beautiful refits, beautiful interiors and nice details, but both of you also have the nacelle shape wrong. Seems everyone is missing that point, or just not mentioning it for some reason.
I can't see anything wrong with the shape of the nacelles on either model. I'm usually very good at spotting inconsistencies (mainly because I'm so good at making them myself), but I can't see a problem on either Ryutaro's or BCL323's. My guess is no one has mentioned it because they haven't noticed it. What exactly is wrong with them?
@Buckaroohawk & wjaspers:
I think what wjaspers is refering to is actually something I've been aware of. (please correct me if I'm mistaken) The nacelle starts with sort of flat sides with round edges at the front, and transitions to a cylindrical shape at the back, and "pinches" or tapers to the flat angled end. Not sure I can tell on Ryutaro's version, but mine do in fact do that. However, on my model the shape is indeed a bit off, and not quite a full cylindrical shape where it tapers. I will probably leave it as is though, since it really is a quite hard to notice detail, as evidenced by almost no one noticing it. I didn't even on my own model for a long time.;)
@Buckaroohawk & wjaspers:
I think what wjaspers is refering to is actually something I've been aware of. (please correct me if I'm mistaken) The nacelle starts with sort of flat sides with round edges at the front, and transitions to a cylindrical shape at the back, and "pinches" or tapers to the flat angled end.
Almost correct, except the part of where it starts, it allready starts as a tube at the beginning, that what's the nacelle is made off, a 4" tube.
In the background you see a picture of the 1701, the red arrows are where the tube starts, upper left a cross section of it, bottom left the one from RYUTARO, bottom right the one from BCL323. Maybe not a big issue, but try and do the dock sequence from TMP, you surely will notice it.
The nacelles look fine to me, but the pylons seem much too thick, especially at the top where they meet the nacelles. The real pylons on the filming model are the same thickness in the middle all the way up, and thin to the front and rear, as far as I know. I can't find any good pics of that, though.
I can see the differences in the photos, but it's so subtle that if it hadn't been pointed out I would never have noticed it. You got some keen eyes for spotting it, wjaspers. I thought I knew this ship down to it's smallest details, but this is something I'd never caught before.
In any case I don't think the differences in either Ryutaro's or BCL323's models detract from anything established on the original filming miniature. In my mind I've chalked it up to artistic license.
In the background you see a picture of the 1701, the red arrows are where the tube starts, upper left a cross section of it, bottom left the one from RYUTARO, bottom right the one from BCL323. Maybe not a big issue, but try and do the dock sequence from TMP, you surely will notice it.
Thank you for pointing out.
Modifying the shape of the cross section is likely to take time.
The nacelles look fine to me, but the pylons seem much too thick, especially at the top where they meet the nacelles. The real pylons on the filming model are the same thickness in the middle all the way up, and thin to the front and rear, as far as I know. I can't find any good pics of that, though.
to joint surface of the pylon and nacelle, There is very thick.
and there is no uniform thickness.
The Official drawing too thin pylons.
Don't drive yourself crazy splitting hairs on this build, Ryutaro. I understand the need to make the model as accurate as possible, but don't let it take you over the edge. There's always room to make allowances for small inconsistencies.
By the way, if you ever decide to do more than just test how this looks, don't forget there are explosive charges located along the separation line to aid in the process.
Your model looks more amazing with each new update. Keep them coming!
I never tire at looking at different artist's perceptions of this ship. That's why she's my favorite; each brings their own unique interpretation, but she always looks so beautiful and elegant. Exceptional work, Ryutaro!
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You both have beautiful refits, beautiful interiors and nice details, but both of you also have the nacelle shape wrong. Seems everyone is missing that point, or just not mentioning it for some reason.
I can't see anything wrong with the shape of the nacelles on either model. I'm usually very good at spotting inconsistencies (mainly because I'm so good at making them myself), but I can't see a problem on either Ryutaro's or BCL323's. My guess is no one has mentioned it because they haven't noticed it. What exactly is wrong with them?
I think what wjaspers is refering to is actually something I've been aware of. (please correct me if I'm mistaken) The nacelle starts with sort of flat sides with round edges at the front, and transitions to a cylindrical shape at the back, and "pinches" or tapers to the flat angled end. Not sure I can tell on Ryutaro's version, but mine do in fact do that. However, on my model the shape is indeed a bit off, and not quite a full cylindrical shape where it tapers. I will probably leave it as is though, since it really is a quite hard to notice detail, as evidenced by almost no one noticing it. I didn't even on my own model for a long time.;)
Almost correct, except the part of where it starts, it allready starts as a tube at the beginning, that what's the nacelle is made off, a 4" tube.
Instead of posting an ugly picture in this thread here is a link to it:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/wjaspers/STMPent29.jpg
In the background you see a picture of the 1701, the red arrows are where the tube starts, upper left a cross section of it, bottom left the one from RYUTARO, bottom right the one from BCL323. Maybe not a big issue, but try and do the dock sequence from TMP, you surely will notice it.
In any case I don't think the differences in either Ryutaro's or BCL323's models detract from anything established on the original filming miniature. In my mind I've chalked it up to artistic license.
Thank you for pointing out.
Modifying the shape of the cross section is likely to take time.
to joint surface of the pylon and nacelle, There is very thick.
and there is no uniform thickness.
The Official drawing too thin pylons.
Modify the shape of the nacelle.
And Saucer separation test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joXd_lJYojA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V08KInikVXQ
By the way, if you ever decide to do more than just test how this looks, don't forget there are explosive charges located along the separation line to aid in the process.
Your model looks more amazing with each new update. Keep them coming!
Very good!
The two test movies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTqJfvBJWFM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PneJEFgl410
I do not have time to see more pictures please.
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