Nice work Talos-san.
I have quite a few bookies of military theme... i think i saw those ships you mention on a "Illustrated directory of warships: from 1860 to the present"...
Interesting link btw. Keep up the good work.
Maybe i could direct Mr. Ted Nomura to this thread... Mr. Nomura is an Air Force member, and a painter/comic maker from Antarctic Press. His "families of altered wars" comic series depict quite a few interesting designs... to say i explained him of a prototype gunship and he will use it on one of his newer comic issues and will credit me there for the info! :eek: that's one comic issue i will keep for shure
Thanks, Sanjurjo. Sure, I'd love for him to see my work, hopefully give him some ideas.
Here's something I was fiddling around with in class, a rough size comparison of the HSRSV and several Army vehicles, the M996 HMMWV, M977 HEMTT, and M939 5-Ton cargo truck.
Thanks Blackbird. Yes they are both battleships. The Georgia is a "Maximum Battleship" design study from 1917, a design that pressed the limits on size and armament. You can read about it here (The design I drew was IV-2, btw.). The Indiana is one of the design studies that eventually became the USS North Carolina BB-55.
I've been planning on doing one of these for awhile. Hmm, to do the top view, I still need to draw the two-seat canopy. The EF-14G top view has the correct wing and all, but still is a single-seater.
I started this project in early May this year. I was inspired partially by the Super Hornet, figuring that the Tomcat needed a similar line of models and the forms of the Super Bugs, including the Growler, worked perfectly for the Tomcat as well.
Shouldn't the EF-14G be a Two seater Electronic Warfare aircraft. The EA-6 Prowler began as a Two seater before Northrop upgraded the Prowler to a Four seater. The EF-111 Raven was a Two seater EW. Then you have the Northrop EF-18G Growler which you already know is a Two seater EW/Wild Weasel Aircraft. I just think it would be a lot of work for one pilot to handle. The only way I can see one pilot doing all the work is if the Tomcat II single seater had a Sensor Fusion cockpit just like the F-22 Raptor.
Oh, it is a two seat aircraft, as seen in the side view. I mean that I just hadn't changed the top view (which was modded from the F-14E's) into a two seater yet.
Oh, it is a two seat aircraft, as seen in the side view. I mean that I just hadn't changed the top view (which was modded from the F-14E's) into a two seater yet.
You know Talos I was just thinking another cool project would be the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor my favorite US Air Force fighter aircraft.
I know the fighter hasn't been in service that long. It would be cool to see schematic drawings of the YF-22/F-22 next to each other along with the proposed Two seater F-22B and the Two Seater Swing-Wing NATF F-22 (The original Tomcat replacement before the US Navy bought the SuperBug!)
Then I remember seeing a Delta winged F-22 Raptor designed by General Dynamics that was proposed for the ATF competition. Then there was the proposed X-44 Tailless Test plane that was to do flight testin on tailless aircraft. (It was a YF-22 with a Delta Wing and no Vertical tail.)
I just thought it would be cool to see the Family of F-22 aircraft together, so what do you think about that idea?
I don't know how many F-22-derived designs I'll do. I prefer more of a what-if? kind of thing, like my F-14s and F-27. I do hope to do the EB-52 Megafortress though, and maybe an F-31 or F-29.
I don't know how many F-22-derived designs I'll do. I prefer more of a what-if? kind of thing, like my F-14s and F-27. I do hope to do the EB-52 Megafortress though, and maybe an F-31 or F-29.
As for as I know there is the YF-22/F-22, Proposed/Cancelled Two seater F-22B/NATF F-22, X-44, General Dynamics Proposed Delta wing designed F-22 and I just remembered that there is the FB-22 Proposed/Cancelled Two seater Delta winged Medium Bomber.
So there is not many variants of the F-22. I don't know if you knew this or not the NATF F-22 was pretty much a Tomcat with a Stealth Airframe, it looked pretty freakin awesome.
It would be pretty cool to see EB-52 Megafortress.
An for the F-29 and F-31 are you talking about the X-29 and X-31 Research Aircraft?
Northrop?!? They may build the aft fuselage, but that's a Boeing designed plane! (I ought to know, I used to be on Boeing's Super Hornet team!)
Hehe, I knew you would point that out, I was waiting for that.
As far as the F-22, it's just not my favorite bird, doesn't excite me like the older designs, so the closest I'm going to get in the near future is my F-27C Warhawk with FAST packs which is starting to resemble it very much (even though it's an F-15E fuselage).
I did some minor updates to the ships. The Georgia now has the aft guns and windows added, as well as several small things such as anchors and the beginning of the bridgeworks around the conning tower. Next thing up, working on the cage masts.
On the Indiana, this is the beginning of the late-war version of the ship. Since the Iowas were now in service and the ship wasn't needed as much in the battleline and carrier groups, she was rebuilt after taking kamikaze damage in a battle near Iwo Jima, as a helicopter test ship to experiment with the new machines and their operations, in conjunction with the (never-sunk) USS Langley. The biggest change was the removal of everything at the quarterdeck and installation of a flight deck and hanger for four of the HOS-1 helicopters. The hanger is offset to starboard, the original aircraft crane is retained, although shifted to port, to be used for loading and unloading the craft and large components. It also allows the ship to service seaplanes as a secondary function. The 5" battery was refined and moved, giving the ship 20 5"/38s in dual turrets. It also has a new enclosed bridge. The ship still needs, besides deck fittings and the like, the 40mm Bofors and the rest of its AA suite and the new electronics and rigging, Radar, et al.
Much more updates to the DreamStar now, including more panelling, ground level, and the engine nozzle which is shown in the fully extended and spread position.
Just to show that the thread title is still meaningful here, I got back to doing some BSG work today. I corrected, finally, a mistake that was on the wings of the Viper Mk VII top views. I also grouped all the side views together although it still needs a Viper Mk VIIE side view.
On the wings the panel line that is under the cannon mounts cut right across it. For comparison, here is the old Viper T.Mk VII picture. It's the line that bisects the rear part of the mount. It's not that big a deal, but it's been bugging me for ages.
I started working on the side view of the Maelstrom Viper Mk VIIE. It has the new chines and nose but still needs the new guns, gun mounts, and redone dorsal intakes and panels.
Oh, I thought I had replied to this already. I'm planning on cleaning up the Viper Mk VIIs, as well as finishing the Mk VIIE. I'm also going to work on the Mk I/IV family more and the SR.Mk Is.
I did start cleaning up and redoing parts of the F-14NGs, starting with the three that were in the family picture. A major change is the smaller diameter lines.
While working on the F-14NGs some more and taking a break from some other projects on my day off, I went ahead and updated the XF-14E prototype to the current standards, and added the YF-14E and F as well.
Since I finally got a pretty accurate scale on the F-14NG, I decided to start arming them up. First up is the EF-14G configured for a normal electronic-warfare escort mission. It's armed with 2xAIM-120C-7 AMRAAM missiles for self defense, 4xAN/ALQ-99 Tactical Jamming Pods, and 2xAGM-88D HARM antiradiation missiles.
Nice job on your latest updates of the TomcatII. I especially like the EF-14G with the weapons and ECM mounted on the airframe. I like to see the F-14E/F with a full weapons load as well.
The other Tomcats with armaments are definately coming, once I draw the weapons and add the pylons for the E/F. I'm also going to add a refueling pod and, for the EF-14G, a set of pods for an AWACS and JSTAR role.
The other Tomcats with armaments are definately coming, once I draw the weapons and add the pylons for the E/F. I'm also going to add a refueling pod and, for the EF-14G, a set of pods for an AWACS and JSTAR role.
Cool looking forward to seeing the other Tomcat II's with there payload and specialized equipment. :thumb:
I started working on arming an F-14E, this particular one has the enlarged dorsal ECM spine. The armament has not all been added in yet. Also, I corrected a missing ECM antenna that was on the "big spine" F-14NGs in both the family side view and the armed EF-14G.
The last picture is an early shot of a county-specific model, the Japanese EF-14J. It's modified from the 14G by having the cockpit further back in the original F-14F position, as well as focusing on the roles of ECCM, ECM, AWACS, Anti-ship, and functioning as a secondline interceptor after the F-14E/F, F-15J, and F-2A. It lacks most of the advanced A2G equipment and software, focusing more on the A2A since the JASDF isn't supposed to be offensively bombing anyone. It has an IRST mounted on the nose as well.
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I have quite a few bookies of military theme... i think i saw those ships you mention on a "Illustrated directory of warships: from 1860 to the present"...
Interesting link btw. Keep up the good work.
Maybe i could direct Mr. Ted Nomura to this thread... Mr. Nomura is an Air Force member, and a painter/comic maker from Antarctic Press. His "families of altered wars" comic series depict quite a few interesting designs... to say i explained him of a prototype gunship and he will use it on one of his newer comic issues and will credit me there for the info! :eek: that's one comic issue i will keep for shure
Here's something I was fiddling around with in class, a rough size comparison of the HSRSV and several Army vehicles, the M996 HMMWV, M977 HEMTT, and M939 5-Ton cargo truck.
Shouldn't the EF-14G be a Two seater Electronic Warfare aircraft. The EA-6 Prowler began as a Two seater before Northrop upgraded the Prowler to a Four seater. The EF-111 Raven was a Two seater EW. Then you have the Northrop EF-18G Growler which you already know is a Two seater EW/Wild Weasel Aircraft. I just think it would be a lot of work for one pilot to handle. The only way I can see one pilot doing all the work is if the Tomcat II single seater had a Sensor Fusion cockpit just like the F-22 Raptor.
OH, Got it Talos!!!:D
I know the fighter hasn't been in service that long. It would be cool to see schematic drawings of the YF-22/F-22 next to each other along with the proposed Two seater F-22B and the Two Seater Swing-Wing NATF F-22 (The original Tomcat replacement before the US Navy bought the SuperBug!)
Then I remember seeing a Delta winged F-22 Raptor designed by General Dynamics that was proposed for the ATF competition. Then there was the proposed X-44 Tailless Test plane that was to do flight testin on tailless aircraft. (It was a YF-22 with a Delta Wing and no Vertical tail.)
I just thought it would be cool to see the Family of F-22 aircraft together, so what do you think about that idea?
As for as I know there is the YF-22/F-22, Proposed/Cancelled Two seater F-22B/NATF F-22, X-44, General Dynamics Proposed Delta wing designed F-22 and I just remembered that there is the FB-22 Proposed/Cancelled Two seater Delta winged Medium Bomber.
So there is not many variants of the F-22. I don't know if you knew this or not the NATF F-22 was pretty much a Tomcat with a Stealth Airframe, it looked pretty freakin awesome.
It would be pretty cool to see EB-52 Megafortress.
An for the F-29 and F-31 are you talking about the X-29 and X-31 Research Aircraft?
Hehe, I knew you would point that out, I was waiting for that.
As far as the F-22, it's just not my favorite bird, doesn't excite me like the older designs, so the closest I'm going to get in the near future is my F-27C Warhawk with FAST packs which is starting to resemble it very much (even though it's an F-15E fuselage).
On the Indiana, this is the beginning of the late-war version of the ship. Since the Iowas were now in service and the ship wasn't needed as much in the battleline and carrier groups, she was rebuilt after taking kamikaze damage in a battle near Iwo Jima, as a helicopter test ship to experiment with the new machines and their operations, in conjunction with the (never-sunk) USS Langley. The biggest change was the removal of everything at the quarterdeck and installation of a flight deck and hanger for four of the HOS-1 helicopters. The hanger is offset to starboard, the original aircraft crane is retained, although shifted to port, to be used for loading and unloading the craft and large components. It also allows the ship to service seaplanes as a secondary function. The 5" battery was refined and moved, giving the ship 20 5"/38s in dual turrets. It also has a new enclosed bridge. The ship still needs, besides deck fittings and the like, the 40mm Bofors and the rest of its AA suite and the new electronics and rigging, Radar, et al.
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Apologies for the Photobucket links, Imageshack is messing up on me now, I'll replace them later.
So what other BSG Viper updates do you got cooking in that brain of yours.
I did start cleaning up and redoing parts of the F-14NGs, starting with the three that were in the family picture. A major change is the smaller diameter lines.
Cool looking forward to seeing the other Tomcat II's with there payload and specialized equipment. :thumb:
So uncivilized!!!!!!!:D:lol:
The last picture is an early shot of a county-specific model, the Japanese EF-14J. It's modified from the 14G by having the cockpit further back in the original F-14F position, as well as focusing on the roles of ECCM, ECM, AWACS, Anti-ship, and functioning as a secondline interceptor after the F-14E/F, F-15J, and F-2A. It lacks most of the advanced A2G equipment and software, focusing more on the A2A since the JASDF isn't supposed to be offensively bombing anyone. It has an IRST mounted on the nose as well.