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Samurai wrote: »
"Star Treks: Lower Decks continues to struggle to find a fanbase, as a new rumor suggests that Canadian viewership numbers are devastatingly low."
Wishbone_Ash wrote: »
See, a lot of you weren't around when TNG started, but that show was *hated* by the core TOS fanbase. As in utterly detested. And it had much of the same core creative team from TOS itself! But the fans spread exaggerated rumors that Gene was never in charge and that it was actually his lawyer who was running the show. (ok there is grain of truth in that, but that's a different story)
But anyway, TNG created a huge uproar, the ship design was hated (and still is in some circles) Wesley Crusher was (perhaps rightly) criticized for being a Mary-Sue, and the quality of the early episodes was widely panned (perhaps also not without good reason) - the fact is, TNG was extremely controversial, and rather hated by the TOS faithful. The show only started to produce quality episodes on a sporadic basis in season 2 and only started to achieve the consistency of brilliance it became renowned for during the third season. These days we look back at TNG as a TV entertainment landmark, and rightly so, but it was a very difficult and precarious show to make in its early years.
Now I'm not saying Lower Decks will ever be an entertainment landmark (nor do I think that is even the point of such a show) but back in the 80's when life was way the f*ck more chilled than it is now, viewers gave TNG nearly three years to get its act together.
Just bear this in mind.
Freak wrote: »
I would agree with the best Trek to come out of Secret Hideout and Bad Robot.
But I would not say it better than some of the old stuff.
Okay it might be a little better than the Voyager episode "Threshold"
Freak wrote: »
Yeah I don't find the humour in Lower Decks to be funny. Maybe it because it Star Trek and I expect a higher standard and intelligent humour, with the odd slap stick thrown in every now and then. They managed to do it with classic Trek. I just find toilet level humour dose not works with Trek. (I do find it funny in other things)
I will agree the show has got better as it gone alone. But it still not at the level I expect for an adult show. Yes this is meant to be a adult animated Trek show, but the writing quality is that for a young teen show.
If you removed anything relating to Trek and placed this show in the Star Wars or B5 Universes with all references made to them would it still work?
One thing for sure, I would most likely find it funny if it was set in the Star Wars universe.
Trek has always been the thinking person show.
Wars, well we had everything under the sun and that was even before Disney bought it. So a show like this does not seem out of place.
Maybe if Kurtzman said this show was a parody I would enjoy it more.
count23 wrote: »
I would love to have 10 more episodes of LD (A full 20 episode season) in exchange for Disco season 3. I am very annoyed at this "10 episodes per season" trend CBS/Paramount seem to have adopted. Trek used to be 26 episode seasons, hell, even TAS was 22 for it's first season. I dont get why 10 episodes has become the standard yet charge the same full price for the season as if it were a full length proper season order.
evil_genius_180 wrote: »
Against my better judgment, I watched episode three. I have to say, it wasn't quite as bad as the first two, but the show still doesn't resonate with me. The main thing that this show does that doesn't really suit my particular taste in comedy is that it exaggerates every situation. The thing with task times and the giant red clocks was ridiculous, as was the over the top reaction of the aliens to the wood thing instead of a crystal. I mean, there have been insults on Star Trek before, there were a few episodes of Enterprise that dealt with Archer and his crew doing the wrong thing and aliens getting mad about it. But, they didn't all out attack and graffiti the ship over a simple mistake. So, I think that's what gets me most about this show, is they go way over the top with these scenarios to try and be funny. To me, it's just not funny. Though, I did something I haven't done before with this show. I laughed. Once. It was right at the beginning of the episode, when the security chief broke Boimler's violin.