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Guerrilla wrote: »
Added spoiler tags, since we have those.
Tralfaz wrote: »
I liked the fact that they didn't try to make look like an active 20 year old.
Tralfaz wrote: »
And I have already watched The Boys. It also was a great series. You'll be surprised by it. It's not your kids super here series.
MadKoiFish wrote: »
The androids are like data clones whole intent was data was not reproducible either in his neural net or in his technology, second it was known in canon holograms were used for menial labor.
The "racism" it was like watching a film from the 50s the whole of the workroom crap was way too 20th cen. Humans of that time should be beyond this sort of behavior. Even today in a public area people would not behave like this.
kaden wrote: »
The feel of it seems weird in some places, like the hardhat people. Everyone doesn't speak to each other like the previous shows.
I noticed in the last few scenes of episode two, the lieutenants pips were sticking to each other in a few shots.
evil_genius_180 wrote: »
Quite the contrary. If you watch the TNG episode "The Measure of a Man," trying to create more Soong type androids to do whatever tasks were needed of them is exactly what Bruce Maddox was working on. This was stated quite clearly in that episode. They wanted to create more androids, possibly even a whole race of androids.
Data was also never opposed to creating more androids and in fact tried it himself when he created his daughter Lal. He also tried to help his brother Lore and the less advanced B4 android. The episode "Data's Day" also indicates that Data was assisting Maddox in his research into the field of androids, as he was recording the events of his day for Maddox.
Holograms only work where there are holo emitters. A power failure of a facility where you need emitters to work could cause trouble. Granted, they did have that mobile emitter on Voyager, but that was cutting edge 29th century tech and may not have been reverse engineered successfully by this time.
Those type of racist attitudes are way more present in Star Trek than people give them credit for. In fact, both Bruce Maddox himself and Dr. Pulaski treated Data like he was a mere piece of machinery. Maddox's mind was changed by the end of "The Measure of a Man," but there was no clear indication if Pulaski's mind was really changed by the time Gates McFadden was allowed to return to the show because Maurice Hurley had left as show runner after the second season. There's also plenty of other racism that has reared its ugly head in Star Trek. Odo was openly discriminated against numerous times on DS9, even way before the Dominion entered into the picture. "A Man Apart" is one episode that comes to mind. I could state more examples, but I've made my point. The "enlightened" 23rd and 24th century galaxy of Star Trek is actually less enlightened than people give it credit for.
MadKoiFish wrote: »
Casual use of transporters fucking DUH.
evil_genius_180 wrote: »
They had swearing in TNG. In Klingon and Romulan. (The Defector) I've personally never liked swearing in Star Trek either. Even Spock comments on how out of place it is in the 23rd century.
I got the feeling the Admiral just didn't like Picard at all.
Freak wrote: »
I hate the swearing in Trek, STIV:TVH has already established that foul langue is not used in the future, and Kirk travel back in time over a hundred years before the events in Picard.
Okay before Discovery we had only seen swearing in The Voyage Home in our own time period and Data in Generations.
I let the Data saying "O Shit!" slid because he just got his emotion chip and it was used to show his emotion at the situation. Which makes the context of him saying it funny. It not done to be hip or edgy.
But Tilly, the Romulan Housekeeper and that female Admiral saying it, was just uncalled for.
If you want the Romulan to swear fine, she an alien from outside of the Federation, have her swear in Romulan and not English.
Did anyone else get the impression that the Admiral was pissed with Picard before he even sat down. If felt that way to me.
So she would not reinstate Picard and won't give him a ship. Big whoop. Picard has severed in Starfleet for what 50 to 60 years?
Your telling me that in all that time, he has not worked with or command anyone that still in Starfleet that could help him out though back channel and get round this Admiral? I call BS there.
Okay let say he can't get a Starfleet ship to help. He is well regarded by the Klingons and with Worf's close ties to Chancellor Martok (assuming he is still Chancellor), Picard could easily get a Klingon BOP for the mission.
Yes they mention Picard old crew to help but he does not want to get them involved as they are too loyal to him. Then who the hell does he want to get to help? People that are not loyal and will betrayal him? It does not make any scenes.
This is just poor writing by people that don't know Trek.
sorceress21 wrote: »
Why all of a sudden would the Federation or Starfleet be so put off on an officer exercising Freedom of Speech that said officer (retired or otherwise) be then ostracized? Certainly "politics" will exist in the 24th Century but on the same petty level as today?
Comco wrote: »
They're still human. The Admiral took personal offense at Picard's comments. She was livid. He also was making a highly unusual request that he had no right to make. At best, she was under no obligation to help. But she was also not even remotely inclined to help, given he'd questioned her integrity and that of the organisation she's served her entire life.
Seems entirely plausible to me. 21st century or 24th.
Freak wrote: »
The third episode is the last one Kurtzman did as showrunner before Michael Chabon took over.
It was an okay episode, still not as good as the first one.
I thought Michelle Hurd who plays Raffi Musiker acting was bad and I mean really bad. It seem more like she was acting on some chessey 70's - 80's Soap Opera.
Can someone tell me why two of the main characters are Vaping/ Smoking? It has already been established Humans stopped doing this when they relaised it was killing them. (Voyager episode: The 37's)
Did they put this in so we can relate more to the characters? or are they just trying to make smoking "Cool" again?
Also what with that Vulcan or undercover Romulan (Commodore Oh) wearing 1980's style sunglasses?
If she is really Vulcan, the suns brightness would not have really bother her. She from a planet that is mostly desert, her spices eyes would have naturally evolved so that bright light would not effect them. That would have been like overcast day for her.
Or did they just do it, so you suspect her and make her menacing like a Men in Black? (Hmm I wonder if she had a neuro-lieser in her pocket?)
If Android have been banned though out Federation due to being an A.I and having "a bad bit data." How come the EMH still allowed.
Just like an Android they are programs and I would say that they could be even more dangerous than a Android. As we saw with the Doctor on occasion in Voyager.
This show has me asking more question than it should and I got a feeling the one relating to story are going to be mystery boxes. In another words they will never get answered or they will in such a way they hope you don't think about it, because if you do it does not make scene.
Anyway it was good seeing Jonathan Del Arco back as Hugh.