Looking good. As far as backstory....perhaps its actually more cost effective to leave the non VTOL fighters inservice rather than decommission them or have them retrofitted with VTOL; thus it was cheaper to just create a craft with VTOL off the bat...
I took advantage of a slow shift at work today to give these little beauties some thought. I'll e-mail you some ideas once I've had something to eat and had a chance to cool down a bit.
Those fins were just place holders, I'm thinking about something like this;
Might also round the wingtips too.
nice though i think the tips are a little TOO rounded. something about that image really screams "avatar shuttle". i might advise taking the rear edge of the delta further back along the fuselage.
nice though i think the tips are a little TOO rounded. something about that image really screams "avatar shuttle". i might advise taking the rear edge of the delta further back along the fuselage.
Think I'm going to start from scratch on this last one. I like the overall shape, but it just looks a little like something from a RTS game to me, plus a bit too 21st century.
In other news, now that I've got everything reinstalled I'm back at the american fighter. Starting the weathering and detailing on it;
That's a shame, maybe you can bring one or both back at a later date as historical fighters. The US fighter's looking real good, have you given it a designation yet?
great model and texturing, fantastic. not sure if it's just a reflection but the top looks too blue in colour. must admit i would like to see the last one, completed also.
I'll hang on to the old one, sure it can be repurposed down the road. And yeah spacefighter, the color is pretty vibrant, I wanted to give it a look like it could be flying through an alien atmosphere.
Here is where I'm going with the redesigned russian;
The coloring of the US fighter is really impressive can't wait to see the sheet.
Finless looks great on the russian one.
@Stonecold: the spines are not useless. They could house ECM/ECCM devices (i think some sukhoi planes have a part of their sensor suite in the weird looking tail between their engines, but i might be wrong on this, i know some have a brake chute there), and more importantly, they could be Integrated Cool-Looking Enhancement devices (i like to name tech stuff the way Apperture Science does ^^). My crappy Paint skills make me think a little bit shorter and rounder might make them look more balanced with the rest of the ship, but that is merely a personnal opinion, as always.
@bbzw2: did you stop working on the civilian transport? I looked forward to it. Its realistic look was interesting, i was eager to read its background.
I doubt, anything can hide the flame and heat of thermonuclear thrusters, but whatever...
thermonuclear thrusters? that seems kinda really stupid to put on a fighter imo and where did it say he was putting a nuke engine in the fighter anyway
Well, you don't have an unlimited number of technical solutions to slap a lot of power in a tiny fighter. A nuclear thermal light bulb is quite low-tech, really, compared to everything else. And everything else would be as bright in term of exhaust.
thermonuclear thrusters? that seems kinda really stupid to put on a fighter imo and where did it say he was putting a nuke engine in the fighter anyway
However, aerospace fighters, just like most other space/aerospace craft in VIA-verse are in essence nuclear rockets. Read the viki, if you don`t believe me, it is stated in most, if not all records.
nice work on the fighter, interesting to see the loss of the tails but it looks just as good as before. as for all this business about thrusters, a nuclear main engine makes absolute sense but thrusters could just be made using gas passed over the extremely hot reactor to cause it to expand.
still makes no sense to put a nuke engine on a fighter would you build a nuclear power plant and let people shoot at it? no you wouldnt which is basicly what your doing by putting it in to a fighter not to mention the radiation exposure your giving your pilots and the crew where you have them stored weather it be a base or on a carrier
still makes no sense to put a nuke engine on a fighter would you build a nuclear power plant and let people shoot at it? no you wouldnt which is basicly what your doing by putting it in to a fighter not to mention the radiation exposure your giving your pilots and the crew where you have them stored weather it be a base or on a carrier
All I want to say that is much, much less hazardous, and without it onboard, you will NEVER achieve decent delta-V, period. If you want a little more scientific details, I advise you to read this site through:
It makes no sense to sit in a plane full of jet fuel with afterburning engines. Before that, it made no sense to sit in a plane full of high octane gasoline with an overboosted piston engine. Someday, it will make no sense to sit in a small spaceship full of antimatter, but pilots will do it anyway, cuz that's what they do.
There's no way you're going to have a viable space fighter with anything other than a nuclear engine (fission or fusion) in the VIA-verse. There's no magical reaction-less drive (other than the FTL handwave) to give the fighters, and chemical fuel would not cut it.
I'll just drop this little update into the engineering symposium.
-Bbzw2 posts a new update
-someone comments that it is silly/unrealistic/won't work
-someone answers that A) yes it does work it is a work of fiction so Rule of Cool
-first person retorts that if you're so smart then prove it
-second person hammers links from Atomic Rockets and Rocketpunk Manifesto
-First person says that Nyrath knows no more than him and demonstrates it by explaining how you can get stealth in space (TAKE THIS, NYRATH!!!)
-the Holy Church of Nyrath gets angry, everyone jumps at the heretic with pitches and forks
-Bbzw2 updates his work
-Everyone ignores him while the debate devolves into a lasers Vs missiles argument
Just another normal day on the Vir Inter Astrum WIP thread...
-Bbzw2 posts a new update
-someone comments that it is silly/unrealistic/won't work
-someone answers that A) yes it does work it is a work of fiction so Rule of Cool
-first person retorts that if you're so smart then prove it
-second person hammers links from Atomic Rockets and Rocketpunk Manifesto
-First person says that Nyrath knows no more than him and demonstrates it by explaining how you can get stealth in space (TAKE THIS, NYRATH!!!)
-the Holy Church of Nyrath gets angry, everyone jumps at the heretic with pitches and forks
-Bbzw2 updates his work
-Everyone ignores him while the debate devolves into a lasers Vs missiles argument
Just another normal day on the Vir Inter Astrum WIP thread...
And that`s why those treads are so fun Save for ignoring Bbzw2`s work. BTW, it was never proved that stealth is possible in space without VERY much magitech, like 100% effective heat conductors, radiators and so on.
Bbzw2 - looks good so far. Will there be elevators and nose cone?
And a few photos for inspiration
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Might also round the wingtips too.
nice though i think the tips are a little TOO rounded. something about that image really screams "avatar shuttle". i might advise taking the rear edge of the delta further back along the fuselage.
In other news, now that I've got everything reinstalled I'm back at the american fighter. Starting the weathering and detailing on it;
Here is where I'm going with the redesigned russian;
2 colbmista - if it will be finnless, then those spikes on the back are useless.
Finless looks great on the russian one.
@Stonecold: the spines are not useless. They could house ECM/ECCM devices (i think some sukhoi planes have a part of their sensor suite in the weird looking tail between their engines, but i might be wrong on this, i know some have a brake chute there), and more importantly, they could be Integrated Cool-Looking Enhancement devices (i like to name tech stuff the way Apperture Science does ^^). My crappy Paint skills make me think a little bit shorter and rounder might make them look more balanced with the rest of the ship, but that is merely a personnal opinion, as always.
@bbzw2: did you stop working on the civilian transport? I looked forward to it. Its realistic look was interesting, i was eager to read its background.
thermonuclear thrusters? that seems kinda really stupid to put on a fighter imo and where did it say he was putting a nuke engine in the fighter anyway
Nuclear thruster =/= nuclear reactor. Tokamak style reactor =/= modern style uranium->plutonium reactor.
All I want to say that is much, much less hazardous, and without it onboard, you will NEVER achieve decent delta-V, period. If you want a little more scientific details, I advise you to read this site through:
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/index.php
-Will
-Bbzw2 posts a new update
-someone comments that it is silly/unrealistic/won't work
-someone answers that A) yes it does work
-first person retorts that if you're so smart then prove it
-second person hammers links from Atomic Rockets and Rocketpunk Manifesto
-First person says that Nyrath knows no more than him and demonstrates it by explaining how you can get stealth in space (TAKE THIS, NYRATH!!!)
-the Holy Church of Nyrath gets angry, everyone jumps at the heretic with pitches and forks
-Bbzw2 updates his work
-Everyone ignores him while the debate devolves into a lasers Vs missiles argument
Just another normal day on the Vir Inter Astrum WIP thread...
And that`s why those treads are so fun
Bbzw2 - looks good so far. Will there be elevators and nose cone?
And a few photos for inspiration