Thanks for the pics! As I said, my versions were modelled after the "art of" book, not the actual filmed models. They most likely did some other variations. I might make some more variations as well if I need them to populate the picture.
I still like your three nacelle version. That single strut connecting to the roll bar looks rather good to me.
I noticed over at Bernd Schneider's site, that it seemed as though some of the saucer sections were wider then others. An example would be the Newton's was as wide, or appears to be, as the Enterprise's. The other ships seem to be the same width as the Kelvin.
I think there could be a great deal of fun playing about with this design, as the film makers did. There could even be a Stargazer like configuration out there.
Tobias (and anyone else), if you're interested, check out a thread that a few of us have had running since before the film's release. Our thread has been one of the longest-running and most thorough effort to figure out and document the most accurate representations of the other ships from STXI - in fact we're pretty sure Bernd from Ex-Astris-Scientia is taking his info from our thread.
Thanks for the thread tip - so far it seems the major differences are the rollbar on the Mayflower and the different pylon/impulse section on the Armstrong. I might fix both or just make a few more alterations, but right now IAâm back on the Enterprise. UVmapping has been done, next will be some tests for the main material. It seems the hull is pretty complex in terms of specularity and reflection...
Thanks for the thread tip - so far it seems the major differences are the rollbar on the Mayflower and the different pylon/impulse section on the Armstrong. I might fix both or just make a few more alterations, but right now IAâm back on the Enterprise. UVmapping has been done, next will be some tests for the main material. It seems the hull is pretty complex in terms of specularity and reflection...
Oh, and HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone!
Yeah, I noticed that while the tour was going on the blu-ray. The Enterprise's hull specs are very complex.
Hey Tobias, not sure if you've seen any of the behind-the-scenes docs on the Trek blu-ray or not, but the hull is painted with interference paint in the same style as the Refit from TMP. The paint shifts color at different angles on the hull, and the interference paint also adds two or three different layers of specularity. I'm probably not explaining well, but I would definitely check into the interference paint.
Probably not, since the new Abramprise dwarfs them all by about a factor of two, and putting them side-to-side would just draw attention to how retardedly huge the new ship is (for no reason).
Actually, I'd have to argue with you there.. I don't think the new ship is too big, I think it's the original ships were too small. Seriously.. the TOS Enterprise was smaller than some of our current aircraft carriers. Remember, it was designed in the 60s, when the largest ship in the American fleet could probably have fit inside the shuttle bay. People just seem "okay" with it because "that's the way it's always been". I'm glad they actually made the thing a realistic size rather than going with the teeny version from the 60s.
Actually, I'd have to argue with you there.. I don't think the new ship is too big, I think it's the original ships were too small. Seriously.. the TOS Enterprise was smaller than some of our current aircraft carriers. Remember, it was designed in the 60s, when the largest ship in the American fleet could probably have fit inside the shuttle bay. People just seem "okay" with it because "that's the way it's always been". I'm glad they actually made the thing a realistic size rather than going with the teeny version from the 60s.
I have to agree with this guy, I never liked the "scale" of the old ships. It always bothered me that the supposed pinnacle of human achievement was only as big as a 20th century aircraft carrier. I just think that whoever thought up the sizes for the old ships just wasn't thinking it through, especially when it came to windows. For example, the saucer rim of the TMP 1701. The windows and the port airlock suggest at least three to as many as five decks in the rim, not two. Two decks would cut the airlock hatch in half, and the upper windows would only have a good viewpoint for tiny people, while the lower windows would only be good for tall people. And also, the windows on the TOS and TMP, at least on the saucer, are completely different sizes.
I have to agree with this guy, I never liked the "scale" of the old ships. It always bothered me that the supposed pinnacle of human achievement was only as big as a 20th century aircraft carrier. I just think that whoever thought up the sizes for the old ships just wasn't thinking it through, especially when it came to windows. For example, the saucer rim of the TMP 1701. The windows and the port airlock suggest at least three to as many as five decks in the rim, not two. Two decks would cut the airlock hatch in half, and the upper windows would only have a good viewpoint for tiny people, while the lower windows would only be good for tall people. And also, the windows on the TOS and TMP, at least on the saucer, are completely different sizes.
I hated this ship in the new flick, would have rather seen Jason Lee's beauty on the screen, but you've really captured the flattering side of this new lady.
Tobias, I remember when the new Enterprise was revealed over a year ago, you said that after seeing it that it "ruined your day" and that you hated it. How do you feel about it now that you've gotten to know it in every detail?
I have come to accept it more than when I first saw it, and I'd give it say, a 7 out of 10. (the design, not your work)
IMO, the re-designed Connie by MadKoiFish is almost perfect.
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I still like your three nacelle version. That single strut connecting to the roll bar looks rather good to me.
I noticed over at Bernd Schneider's site, that it seemed as though some of the saucer sections were wider then others. An example would be the Newton's was as wide, or appears to be, as the Enterprise's. The other ships seem to be the same width as the Kelvin.
I think there could be a great deal of fun playing about with this design, as the film makers did. There could even be a Stargazer like configuration out there.
Thanks for the link and info!
Any way you could do a shot with the Enterprise mimicing the shot from ST5 with her against the moon?
Oh, and HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone!
Glad I could help.
And Happy New Year to all, as well! :thumb:
Yeah, I noticed that while the tour was going on the blu-ray. The Enterprise's hull specs are very complex.
And Happy New Years!
I have to agree with this guy, I never liked the "scale" of the old ships. It always bothered me that the supposed pinnacle of human achievement was only as big as a 20th century aircraft carrier. I just think that whoever thought up the sizes for the old ships just wasn't thinking it through, especially when it came to windows. For example, the saucer rim of the TMP 1701. The windows and the port airlock suggest at least three to as many as five decks in the rim, not two. Two decks would cut the airlock hatch in half, and the upper windows would only have a good viewpoint for tiny people, while the lower windows would only be good for tall people. And also, the windows on the TOS and TMP, at least on the saucer, are completely different sizes.
I must admit I didn't think this one was as good as your kelvin was first time around, but now it's probably better
I have come to accept it more than when I first saw it, and I'd give it say, a 7 out of 10. (the design, not your work)
IMO, the re-designed Connie by MadKoiFish is almost perfect.
Time for version 5!