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3DCole Class Destroyer
Rob0
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Back for the first time in a while, not that I haven't wanted to be around, just that I've not been modelling that much and when I was before now it was for work and NDA'd so I couldn't post anything. But anyway as Combie ah.. I mean Tobian and a few others know I've been slowly working on some stuff for my own 'Setting' any one who remembers the reallly old Blood Class Cruiser (which has been thrown out btw and is no longer being used) might remember it but otherwise yeah.. Anyway.. This has been worked on and off now for about 3 years.. when I've been i the mood it's not done by a long shot but I figured why not start sharing it.
Like always I'm using lightwave. I'll give a blurb up later rather than post a wall of text with out any images.
some of these are older images some are newer.
Like always I'm using lightwave. I'll give a blurb up later rather than post a wall of text with out any images.
some of these are older images some are newer. Post edited by Rob on
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and the last few images overview gives a general overview of the craft.. and shows the block out (mid section is done on that image nothing else really had been finished) and a scale one which shows it with a block out of the fleet carrier. (there is a reason for the similarity between them)
Knight26: Originally it was just a design feature that's wormed itself into being explained as required for the Jump drive to function correctly with the bite being proportional in part to the ship size... smaller ships or those with less jump range tend to have less of a bite in universe it's a mass vs field location issue etc.. least that's what i keep telling myself
like the bottom getting the symetrical stuff in first then the segments where it's unsymetric will go in (bottom has only 1 window on the other side where this side has the four etc. plus need to look at the polys causing that 'craease' as the front nose bend.. i know what's doing it just not certain if i want to leave it there or not..
The images are plenty big when you open them in a new tab.
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and yeah long range or broadside combat is the most likely type she'd fight, missiles I did do all the math on works out if you just rapid fired everything she'd be bone dry in about 23 minutes and some one would have 3,000ish warheads closing on them though some of those (about 2/3rds) would be ballastic after a set range or going far slower to preserve energy.. of course it only has fire control links to control 2 missiles per 'tube' so really your never going to have more then 256 missiles space born at any given point unless your cutting the links and letting them self guide, so if you act on the presumption that every missile is controlled for at least 30 minutes it has about 7 days or so of combat endurance before it's down to the turrets and MAC only.. the mac well you can resupply that with anything ferros so .. so long as you have power and a place to mine for astroid chunks your good but the down side is that it's a ballstic weapon.. hits hard.. but can't move once you shoot it.. so mainly used on fixed targets or at close range.
http://www.warriorsblood.com/cole-info.png
owe Tobian and VK some thanks Tobian helped a lot with the textures and Vk let me use some settings and the like she had for the engine effects
Technically you could put a lot more than what I have in if you used a lot of the mid and fwd space for extra missile storage but it's not. you get 128 straight off the bat simply by storing them in the tubes, Evreything in that ship has had it's volume and loading etc all mapped out there is no slight of hand.
You have to remember 250m is as long as a WW2 Carrier and only 75-100m short of a MODERN carrier it's not small.
If we take the Sea Hawk alone which is a 108mx12 meter tube you can fit 7 of them in the same volume as the cole and still actually have a little to either side now the Sea Wolf is capable of carrying 140 men and women, and a mixed compliment of 50 - 70 Torpedos missiles and other items. Now ok I can see the response here ha see you can't have it 7 x 50 = 350 at the most, except that the actual weapon storage space on the sea wolf is actually small compared to the rest of the ship.
Unlike those 7 sea wolves on the cole you have 1 ship area 100% dedicated to the missile bunkerage of the ship much like a WW2 destroyer, you have 2 Life support Plants one forward and one mid (the crew quarters are all generally 'forward' of the ship if you notice), you have every radiator accounted for, every engine accounted for, every reactor accounted for. The MAC system and ammunition storeage is accounted for, The Primary Mass for the Reactors is accounted for and actually takes up most spaces between the armor and any other system.. in the form of H2O which not only acts as a rather good Radiation shield in the real world but also is a rather good source for use when attempting to find a Fusion based fuel because the by product of the fusion can be used to keep your crew alive.
You have a cargo storage that can and would be packed rather full during operations. And unlike those 7 Sea Wolf class submarines which have 980 crew in total.. you have 24 (thouhg i'm thinking of increasing it to about 96).
Plus as any one who has actively served on any military boat will tell you just because it CAN hold that many doesn't mean it does operationally, just like in the real world most ships will go out on patrol with maybe 1/2 their magazines loaded if their lucky.. why? because just like in the real world there are shortages and the like.
That being said I may end up reducing the overall magazine size simply from a safety point of view so that 1 good hit doesn't make the entire ship just go 'boom'... it's still a WIP at the moment.
VK: Thanks :-)
not sure where your going with the H2O fusion thing though - you can split the water into hydrogen and oxygen and can breath the oxygen certainly but hydrogen hydrogen fusion probably not the best for power generation - if your using hydrogen not deuterium then i would look to the hydrogen boron fusion - its aneutronic so much safer to be around and then energy is released as charged particles so can be directly converted to electricity rather than through thermal conversion processes - regardless which way you go though you usually end up with helium which isn't much use for keeping you alive - in my universe i liquefy the helium and store it when the ship isn't in combat and the radiators are fully deployed then when the ship goes into combat is can be used as a coolant and when the gaseous helium has filled the reserve tanks you can even still use the liquid helium and just vent the gas - also considered using it as some sort of laser diffusion defence but not sure helium would work well in that role
Missile count is likely to drop simply due to what you say there.. the suvivability factor.. lets face it why carry 7 days worth of fighting strength if 4 hours in to the fight your going to loose the rest of it when some one puts a BPL or a massive bit of metal through the magazine and the ship goes boom.
working on some of the interior items.. this is the new enlisted quarters.
but yeah 7 days of continuous fighting seems unlikely - crew would be worn out long before the battle -you could reduce the size of the magazine but have it hot swappable so in a big fight ship drops back and rearms from supply ship behind the lines - as for oxygen i would assume that 2000 years in the future we would have worked out a simple oxygen recycling system so its kinda like a super air conditioner splits the oxygen from the carbon returns the carbon to food processors etc - for my universe i assume that all consumables are recycled 100% - a bit revolting eating poop but we already kinda do
that being said I've done the Crew Quarters, Laundry and Shower rough outs.. 20 sets of laundry can be done per laundry room
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updated new info sheet
one thing on your stat sheet you have a max acceleration of 5.349km/s or 550G - km/s is a speed not an acceration need a squared on there dont know how to do little 2's though (you need amazing inertial dampners lol) and you have a top speed listed - have never liked top speed for spaceships unless your stating that 0.39C is as fast as you can get the ship going before its out of fuel and gone ballistic - or that its the top speed can reach and then come back to a relative stop - better to simply state the acceleration rate and the endurance of the fuel at max thrust
in an interesting aside at your stated acceleration you would reach the speed of light (assuming that was possible) in only a little over 15 hours
if you want to state a speed better to say something like standard crusing speed or something like that
The IDS reduces the effects of inertia both in terms of apparent mass and as a sink so you can rapidly accel / decel while you have it active, it's energy hungry hence why it's attached to the reactors themselves, and none of the ships beyond 'small' things really can move with out the IDS fields active in some respect.. loosing one would reduce the acceleration rate by 1/4th (the ship has 4 after all) basically every military ship will eventually reach .39c that's what their shielding is rated to .. every civil ship will reach .24c which is what their shielding is rated to. so really it's a mute point but *shrugs* heh.
the Angelious i think has like 18 IDS emitters when I get around to actully making it. When i'm feeling a little better i'll add that small 2 that vanished back in.. i'd guess i forgot to unhide the layer..