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stfanboy67
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I decided To do a little modding to Rivers3D's Model since I've always loved the design. So I did a rough re texture to the saucer, added a large weapons pod and a large vertical hanger on the belly. I'm also kicking her scale up. I've looked over so many RPG's over the web and came to the conclusion that she is around 850m+. So I'm making her around 1600+. I know that's a little big but I've always thought she should be that size since most other races have ships longer then 1000m. Sometimes bigger is better.:) I'm new at texturing so its going to take me awhile to do the windows. She is also going to have two Defiant Class starships as auxiliary vessels, two squadrons of fighters, and other small craft. Enjoy!!!!!
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Given that the ship is so big and it would probably take the best part of a day to turn it around, I'd imagine it would be better to fit it with phaser and photo turrets like they had on the DS9 station
Have a look at this battle clip from DS9 at approximately 1m 22second in to see what I mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWi-pJLO2m4
http://legacy.filefront.com/screenshots/File/79718/2
I Just put them in random places to help me find a good spot
Keep up the work, and I'll keep checking it out. Good work mate!
And donAât get me wrong, but, did you got permission from Steve to alter the Excalibur like this ? Steve is a registered member (not always online, but he is here), which the nick is Rivers3D.
I also believe that could be better another design than to resize the Excalibur and make it full of weapons and fighters. Have you considered to built his own mesh? Just my two cents.
I hope you'll post an orthographic view so we can get a good all around veiw of this beauty
I could see maybe ~ONE~ located on the belly and spine with clear line-of-fire, but not multiple turrets, especially not tucked so close to the saucer itself and not so near its impulse engines. That just screams "shoot yourself in the foot". There's phaser strips and standard torpedo launchers in place on Starfleet ships for a darn good reason.
I don't mind the 180 m. measurement but I think the Defiants *scream* overkill. I could see this Excalibur-Class refit as a mere Shuttle Carrier with better science and multi-environmental residential amenities to meet the ever-growing diversity of Starfleet, (humanoid, amphibian or "other".)
Upgraded diplomatic rating, "hoppers" meant for a colony delivery or even one or two assault runabouts a-la Bravo Fleet for Starfleet Security for a very mission specific purpose such as a observe-and-report mission to finally prove/disprove the Caeliar dealt with the Borg, once and for all. But mostly Type 9 to Venture-Class/Talon-Class scouts (Data's scout from "Insurrection").
But, I could see this over-all as a science cruiser / medium-to-long range explorer (considering there's improved/extended storage in the pod,) perhaps with just scarcely/slightly improved long range sensors and voyager's new stellar cartography prototype style lab, upgraded with a new understanding of what constitutes a priority use of bandwidth and/or power being routed to/from its major/minor systems, while its new automated systems (tied into the universal translators) upload/download and generally initiate "handshake signals" with sufficiently intelligent probes / satellites, both of Starfleet and alien origins, (commercial, military and anything in-between.)
Otherwise, it stays in the rear with the gear, and ~maybe~ launches/maintains three or four Gryphon-Class / Valkyrie-Class fighters. Or, in addition to a normal shuttle compliment, just one or two Maquis-type "Ju'Day-Class" courier ships (for side trips that would freak out a potential First Contact, should they ever see a walking starbase on their NASA-style advanced telescopes.)
Starfleet wouldn't be interested in building new ships but modifying existing ships, perhaps museum ships for pressing back into service. So I couldn't see fighters or copies of "Delta Flyer"'s.
Lastly, i dub thee, the "Vancouver-Class" science cruiser.
I was thinking--for another design--to divorce the impulse and the laminated hull triangle from the saucer, and move it farther towards the real to merge with flat warp nacelle supports Voyager style, with Impulse to either side of the aft secondary hyll. The triangles would remain for engineering conduit repair and what not.
The deep rich blues are appreciated. Uberships can work if they are subdued.
I doubt he's been able to as Steve (Rivers3D) is a very difficult man to get hold of at the best of times. But knowing Steve I doubt very much he'd mind, he's always been flattered that people have wanted to use his meshes for various projects.
Credits to the original Modelers
Yes, usually Steve says "ok, go ahead", but is always a good pratice to ask. When I pm him, it takes one or two weeks, but he always send an answer.
In your last post, therefore, I can see TachyAâs Avenger, and Tachy donAât allow changes to his meshes. He canAât be seen online but, believe me he will know.
1.: Is she going to carry ALL of those, including the two Avengers (biggest Defiant-look-alikes)? I mean, even when including only everything up to the four Prevaricates (downsized Defiant-look-alikes with equally downsized pod on top)size-wise, this compliment of auxilliary craft would be pushing it, so I just don't see an Excalibur muster enough internal space for those two, especially not with those additional turrets you're proposing dispersed all over the ship.
2.:What's wrong with the old deflector dish? While I like Galaxy-style deflectors, they just don't look right on an otherwise Sovereign-style ship. Just switch back to the old ones or look at the Sovereign for inspiration.
Lastly, though, I want to say that I have been following this with interest and I will continue to do so. Please don't take anything I said as me trying to bash your idea, I'm just offering my opinion and you're free to do with that whatever you want. Carry on, soldier!
It's still in the planning stage. I am waiting till I get get something better than Milkshape 3D ( a low poly modelling program) before I start on her. Once I do get her into a WIP position I'll send you a link.
Wow, that's a fair bit of support craft. Personally I could see a ship having a absolute maximum of save 6 runabouts, perhaps 8 considering the ships size. I would give her more shuttles or fighters over the huge amount of runabouts. Even my Midway that is a fully fledged designed carrier, purposely designed for it won't have that many runabouts. I am thinking a maximum of 3 or 4 for Starfleet and then the usual compliment of shuttles. The Starfighter Corps will have their own tactical version plus their fighters and the MACO's will have several combat transports and planetary gunships. I am myself trying to keep the compliment small and realistic.
If you want my input I would recommend the following embarked craft:
1-2 Escorts (which you have)
42 Fighters (which is what you seem to have if I counted correctly)
6 Runabouts (DS9 Type)
8-10 Voyager Shuttles (maybe 12)
4-6 Ent-E Shuttles
That's my two bobs worth anyway, I hope it may help you in someway if you are stilling thinking about your ships compliment.
Yeah its a little over the top. I'll drop the count down to 10 runabouts and give her 6 more Type 9 shuttlecraft.
Dude this is your project so you should do what you want, dont feel pressured to change your plans just so it fits into the trek universe!
Different is always better!
Probably because it was fugly. The Excalibur technically already has four nacelles. I hate it when people put a third nacelle on ships its overused and in my opinion, bad taste.
My suggestion was only that, a suggestion. I am keeping an eye on this project as it looks interesting, and the reason one posts a WIP thread on any site would be to get opinions and suggestions. It's a reason I post my low poly Armada 2 model threads on my site.
I agree, ships with 3 nacelles are bad taste and overrated. I very much disliked the Galaxy-X and most ships that tack on a third nacelle for that matter.