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Pen and ink ships since I can't model

BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
edited February 2018 in Work in Progress #1
I thought some of you might appreciate these, it's been quite a while since I posted anything to this forum but these were sitting around my hard drive for quite a while and if anyone could get any use out of them, I figure you all would.

The first is my take on the Sulaco... I had heard Syd Mead wanted to do a round design which was vetoed... this is what I imagine it might have looked like.

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I NEVER liked the look of Voyager... so I attempted to make a sleeker, more elegant shape for it.

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A scavenger ship, cobbled together from parts of different vessels and held together by spit and chicken wire, rattling about at the edges of the universe.

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My take on the Christopher-class starship from "Starfleet Year One" but giving it a different look... I like the front but I want to redo everything else.
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  • StarriggerStarrigger83 Posts: 609Member
    Here you go BlueNeumann how bout this?

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    Steve
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  • cavebearcavebear178 Posts: 623Member
    BlueNeumann,
    I like the scavenger ship and the Christopher-class re-image the most. :thumb:

    Starrigger,
    Not bad at all Steve, not bad at all :) Now just detail it as much as possible from the drawing and add your own stuff and then animate! :D
  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
    Starrigger- Cool! This is what I like to see, artists helpin' each other out! I'll throw in some details on that picture (those curved pieces on the nose are roofs, portholes at the front: this thing is BIG, on a "Starship Troopers" level (but with Yamato-esque cannons on its' back)

    Cavebear- Thanks! I'm still trying to figure out the nose of the ship, since it's where the occupants will be spending most of their time. It has to work with the A-Frame but there aren't really many triangular ships. I also just had this idea of it having metal bugs crawling about it to do repairs and patch up the welding that holds that hobbling mess together.
  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
    Okay, here's my take on the back of the Christopher, armed to the teeth. Strangely enough, the more I think about updating its' design, it's closer to the TNG Romulan warship than a Federation ship (ironically since I pictured these babies winning the Romulan War. Maybe they took a page out of our books).

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    Here's some other stuff while I'm here. I was reading the novelization of The Black Hole last summer (as I've never seen the movie, I wanted to see what was in my own head first) so this is my rough take on the Palomino. Not that happy with it.

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    And some space shuttle variants.
    The first is my tanked-up army version I envisioned for Ender's Game.
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    A 747 style space shuttle.
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    And a bullet train inspired shuttle. I can picture it being shot into space with a maglev rail system instead of booster rockets. I think it came out a liiiittle too phallic though.
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    Let me ask you all this: I listened to Rendezvous With Rama and I enjoyed it, but for all the detail they went into, I have NO idea what the Endeavour looks like. I've seen Rama art online but I've never seen anyone do that ship, does anyone have a clue what it's supposed to look like?
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  • StarriggerStarrigger83 Posts: 609Member
    Well for starters I think your concepts for the Palomino are a lot more interesting then the one Disney came up with.

    Its been so long since I read Rama, I can't remember much of it, I'll have to revisit.
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  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
    They describe Rama to an insane degree with measurements, rotation times, the lag time for all their transmissions, the space chimps which play NO PART in the story whatsoever and not a single word about what their own spaceship is like. I keep thinking submarine from the 50s.
  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_180545 Posts: 8,174Member
    I like that 747 inspired shuttle. That's cool. :) The Voyager concept is nice. (though, the nacelles are still too small :p) I used to hate the USS Voyager, but it's grown on me in recent years. The Christopher looks cool (nice name too ;)) but it doesn't look that Trek. I read that novel, but it was years ago.
  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
    (My name's Christopher too). I wasn't trying to go for Trek but just what came into my head, more like a sci-fi universe that decides to become the Star Trek universe (and since it's military at the start, I decided to go for a battleship-looking approach).

    I need to put down what's in my head for the escort ship from Year One, in my mind it's a pod with just everything in it since the pilot doesn't come out for weeks, there's bike pedals for his feet, a kind of gerbil wheel track for him to run on, a mini kitchen, a bathroom with super-slim shower, everything's within arms' reach so he can go for the gun at a moment's notice.

    Voyager still looks like a dustbuster to me, too fat and thick and thick-skinned. It doesn't emotionally touch me the way the other ships do.

    The Palomino, the way I read envisioned it was like Alien, that 70s design with low clearance doors and weirdo paneling and packing pallet walls, while the Cygnus was more like an aircraft carrier turned into a W Hotel.
  • TALON_UKTALON_UK0 Posts: 0Member
    Nice to see so much of artists helping each other out here. I remember the first time another artist built an asset based on my concept art and it is such a buzz to see someone else's take on your design.

    With the Christopher design Ihave to agree it doesn't look very Trek, but I do like the design though, to me it looks more like something from Starship Troopers or Stargate. Really nice first pass at it there by Starrigger too.
  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
    It is a buzz, every time, but I do hope that the collaboration and back-and-forth is a genuine liking of the concepts and designs (or at least the direction) and not a "let's take pity on the poor guy who can't render or draw" cause I'm paranoid like that.

    As I did the back of the Christopher, I thought it might be able to operate in seas as well... except there's no way for it to lift off. Hence the attempt to design a propellor-rocket mix on the bottom.
  • BolianAdmiralBolianAdmiral238 Posts: 1,644Member
    I absolutely love the ringship.
  • StarriggerStarrigger83 Posts: 609Member
    .. I do hope that the collaboration and back-and-forth is a genuine liking of the concepts and designs (or at least the direction) and not a "let's take pity on the poor guy who can't render or draw" cause I'm paranoid like that...

    I don't know about everyone else, but I aint got time to chit-chat about something if I don't genuinely like it, so buck-up pilgrim. Put away the paranoia, and get to drawing. Oh, and there is nothin' wrong with going out there and picking up Sketchup and just doodling around with it. You're sketches are better then some work I've seen on "Real" productions. Keep it up!
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  • L2KL2K0 Posts: 0Member
    i like the round sulaco :)
    and also the flat shuttle

    put the paranoia away. having a shot at a design requires time and love. if someone did it, take it as a compliment.
  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
    I might do a slight redesign on the ringship, make it a bit longer, de-emphasize the X-acto knives at the front (I have HD reference of the real Sulaco now, so I'm going to incorporate some elements from it into the ringship-- I do love the weaponnized look of it).

    I was watching a few old Kakaida episodes and there's this awesome dinky old car in there I might adapt as the nose for the scavenger ship, somehow old European cars feel right for that, I just imagine the inside being all dingy and oily (like Red Dwarf/Starbug) with an old TV on milk crates playing episodes of Barney Miller-- I don't know why Barney Miller but Barney Miller-- while the crew skulks the galaxy for more parts or a better ride.

    Palomino is tricky because I don't have a clear image in my head for it, but I do have a zig-zag unbalanced mentality for it, a sideways sandwich of ships.

    I haven't sketched the Cygnus yet (can't even pronounce it) but it'll have a more sleek luxury cruise liner feel to it, the glass pods taking the crew everywhere I'm basically lifting out of the London Eye, so I think I'll be lifting a lot of elements from shiny new London.

    Here's another design to tide you all over until I hook up my external hard drive and poke through my drawings, this is an amphibious Trek-esque shuttlecraft. I was actually more inspired by the floatypod thing from "The Hunger Games," the front needs some work but I wanted it to be mostly transparent so you can see everywhere underwater. I tried to give them enough room for a passenger/equipment area and an air/waterlock for SCUBA activity. The N10 would hold more people and the passenger area would resemble the one from X2: X-Men United.

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  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_180545 Posts: 8,174Member
    I like that a lot. :)
  • StarriggerStarrigger83 Posts: 609Member
    OOO, Like the Sub! :)

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    The Diver was created by Max Grueter
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  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
    Neat-o! You kinda made it look like a Manta Ray, which is awesome (and something I didn't expect)
  • TALON_UKTALON_UK0 Posts: 0Member
    Nice, and the model of the sub design with the scuba diver is cute, really like the lines on that design, especially what you have going on inside the cockpit.
  • psCargilepsCargile0 Posts: 0Member
    Pencil and pen, that's where I started. Practically given up 3d modeling because sketching is faster.
  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
    For all the love of the Ringship, here's some further exploration as to its' shape and its' 80s-esque livery.

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  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_180545 Posts: 8,174Member
    It's nice to see this getting some more attention. I like what you're doing with it. :)
  • StarriggerStarrigger83 Posts: 609Member
    For the nose of the scavenger ship, perhaps something similar to the ship used in the "Tholian Web"

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    Something like this:

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  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
    Oh yeah! The Tholians! I can see that! Give it a little grille at the front, segmented cockpit glass, throw a truck look on that geometry, I like it!
  • StarriggerStarrigger83 Posts: 609Member
    Now add the "Wishbone" frame off the back that we can hang all the collectables and engines off of:

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  • StarriggerStarrigger83 Posts: 609Member
    Oh yeah! The Tholians! I can see that! Give it a little grille at the front, segmented cockpit glass, throw a truck look on that geometry, I like it!

    Not sure what "Truck look" would be, could you sketch something out?

    I'm also looking for a sense of scale, how big do you see this being?
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  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
    It's just got the kind of rivets and rust and grime you expect to see on a truck that's been plowing across the country nonstop. There's vents with gunk in them, some pipes have been replaced, maybe they stuck a bumper sticker or something like that somewhere, there's running lights with some pretty dim.

    This thing is kind of a trash truck (I can just hear Fred Sanford's voice coming from it), the crew area inside is about the height-width of a truck container with some nooks at the edges (think Millennium Falcon).
  • StarriggerStarrigger83 Posts: 609Member
    So what do you think of the "Clean" Version? Are we ready to Frankenstein this thing?

    As always, view the images to see full size.

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  • cavebearcavebear178 Posts: 623Member
    Now that's a sweet frame on that thar ship... :)

    Has lots of places now to attach all the bits and pieces that have been acquired over time. :thumb:
  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
    It looks brilliant! The scale of it makes sticking the luxury pod on there much easier, too.
  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann208 Posts: 994Member
    The completed Enterprise-E that just went up made me want to revisit this old design, since I figured it would be skinned similar to the Sovereign (it was my take on the Titan, sort of the "Excelsior" version of the Sovereign class)

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