It had been bugging me for a long time so I fixed the rear facing Polygon Antennas on the back of the wing so they weren't just intersecting the structure with no sense of how they were attached. Everything got more grime and tarnish.
Some business minded Klingon could make a fly through ship wash and make it easy to scrub them up once and a while. But on the other hand we all probably wouldn't enjoy them that much. Bring on the grunge.
Naw, we all know what braggarts Klingons are. Every speck of dirt and minor damage on that hull has an epic story behind it, more so with the retelling. So, I don't think the ship wash would do much business, at least not with Klingon customers.
Naw, we all know what braggarts Klingons are. Every speck of dirt and minor damage on that hull has an epic story behind it, more so with the retelling. So, I don't think the ship wash would do much business, at least not with Klingon customers.
Ok that made me laugh. Until deep space nine and Quark and Nog, I really thought the Ferengi were a bad idea.
Armin Shimerman, who played Quark, played one of the first Ferengi seen in the episode "The Last Outpost," as well as the Ferengi captain in "Peak Performance." He was never happy with the portrayal of Ferengi on screen in TNG and said in an interview that he took the role of Quark to redeem the species. And it's true, the Ferengi, who were supposed to be the big baddies of TNG, basically came off as a joke in TNG. It was through Quark, Nog and Rom (and a few others) that they became a beloved species.
Armin Shimerman, who played Quark, played one of the first Ferengi seen in the episode "The Last Outpost," as well as the Ferengi captain in "Peak Performance." He was never happy with the portrayal of Ferengi on screen in TNG and said in an interview that he took the role of Quark to redeem the species. And it's true, the Ferengi, who were supposed to be the big baddies of TNG, basically came off as a joke in TNG. It was through Quark, Nog and Rom (and a few others) that they became a beloved species.
I always wondered about the TNG comment, something to the effect of the Ferengi eating their enemies. Like you said, they came off like a joke.
I always wondered about the TNG comment, something to the effect of the Ferengi eating their enemies. Like you said, they came off like a joke.
I think the "eating" comment was intended to make them sound fearsome. The problem is they were just so comical. They were literally supposed to be the new Klingons. Gene Roddenberry didn't want to show any of the same old enemies, but the lackluster portrayal of the Ferengi led to the return of the Romulans in the last episode of the first season.
I also think he was looking for a way of poking at greedy capitalists. He may have wanted to make them look ridiculous. Profit versus science. Logic and thoughtful consideration versus greed.
I also think he was looking for a way of poking at greedy capitalists. He may have wanted to make them look ridiculous. Profit versus science. Logic and thoughtful consideration versus greed.
Oh, for sure it was a social commentary. People working for greedy Hollywood capitalists like poking fun at other greedy capitalists. The Ferengi were supposed to represent the worst of greedy people. But, they were still supposed to be major villains. The line about them eating their past associates was from "Encounter at Farpoint," where the Ferengi still hadn't been seen. I suspect that line was half social commentary and half just trying to make the heretofore unseen Ferengi seem like major bad guys. The problem was, no hyping them up could prevent them from looking like doofuses when they appeared a few episodes later. Their ship was cool, though. It's a shame we didn't get to see more of the Ferengi Marauder.
I'm not against profit either. In fact, it wouldn't make sense for me to be, since I work for the largest retailer in the world.
I did some reading on Memory Alpha, and the Ferengi were created by Herbert J. Wright. As I said, the Ferengi were supposed to take the place of the Klingons in TNG, since they could no longer be used as antagonists. Wright thought back to the conflict between the Klingons and Federation in TOS being a representation of the Cold War, and he wanted something that was socially relevant for the 1980s, so he chose greed in the US financial sector. Essentially, the Ferengi were supposed to represent financial agents and lawyers of the time. So, he made them profit obsessed ruthless aliens. So, as you said, they were supposed to be socially relevant for the time and they were meant to show the greed being shown by a lot of people in the 1980s. In fact, as things have gotten even worse in the 37 years since TNG first aired, the Ferengi are still relevant today.
And, of course, the Ferengi were also a stark contrast to the Federation, which was supposed to be made up of races that had evolved past the greedy obsessions of the Ferengi. Oh, how far we have to go....
As I understand it, it was built and sent to the TNG staff and crew. I believe it was never used. Doug Drexler highlighted it in his blog. Suddenly I've been seeing a lot of drawings of them on Deviant Art.
Taking a stab at an accurate underside of this station with very few helpful shots. Some of course, had to be made up. I'll be getting rid of those sword-shaped greebles just under the rim of the central station.
Love to see you tackling Copernicus! It was designed and used on the Borg Invasion 4D ride from 'The Experience', I've always been tempted to recreate its interiors. The physical model was created years later by a fan.
Shots of the station ortho views from the desk of Herman Zimmerman, from a DVD extra of 'The Final Frontier', seems like he was working on the ride when he was interviewed.
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An obvious problem with the original Copernicus station is the very large windows out on the surrounding landing platforms. Anyone have any idea what they are supposed to be other than Huge expansive rooms. Were they parks, or gymnasiums, or pools or huge rooms full of cubicles?
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I bet there have been a few Ferengi who tried this and they probably didn't live long enough to realise why this was a stupid idea.
Armin Shimerman, who played Quark, played one of the first Ferengi seen in the episode "The Last Outpost," as well as the Ferengi captain in "Peak Performance." He was never happy with the portrayal of Ferengi on screen in TNG and said in an interview that he took the role of Quark to redeem the species. And it's true, the Ferengi, who were supposed to be the big baddies of TNG, basically came off as a joke in TNG. It was through Quark, Nog and Rom (and a few others) that they became a beloved species.
I think the "eating" comment was intended to make them sound fearsome. The problem is they were just so comical. They were literally supposed to be the new Klingons. Gene Roddenberry didn't want to show any of the same old enemies, but the lackluster portrayal of the Ferengi led to the return of the Romulans in the last episode of the first season.
Oh, for sure it was a social commentary. People working for greedy Hollywood capitalists like poking fun at other greedy capitalists. The Ferengi were supposed to represent the worst of greedy people. But, they were still supposed to be major villains. The line about them eating their past associates was from "Encounter at Farpoint," where the Ferengi still hadn't been seen. I suspect that line was half social commentary and half just trying to make the heretofore unseen Ferengi seem like major bad guys. The problem was, no hyping them up could prevent them from looking like doofuses when they appeared a few episodes later. Their ship was cool, though. It's a shame we didn't get to see more of the Ferengi Marauder.
Ferengi: "We look for things that make us profit."
BTW: I'm not against profit. I just dislike that the uber wealthy get away with whatever they want.
I did some reading on Memory Alpha, and the Ferengi were created by Herbert J. Wright. As I said, the Ferengi were supposed to take the place of the Klingons in TNG, since they could no longer be used as antagonists. Wright thought back to the conflict between the Klingons and Federation in TOS being a representation of the Cold War, and he wanted something that was socially relevant for the 1980s, so he chose greed in the US financial sector. Essentially, the Ferengi were supposed to represent financial agents and lawyers of the time. So, he made them profit obsessed ruthless aliens. So, as you said, they were supposed to be socially relevant for the time and they were meant to show the greed being shown by a lot of people in the 1980s. In fact, as things have gotten even worse in the 37 years since TNG first aired, the Ferengi are still relevant today.
And, of course, the Ferengi were also a stark contrast to the Federation, which was supposed to be made up of races that had evolved past the greedy obsessions of the Ferengi. Oh, how far we have to go....
I've also been working on a Copernicus station.
Getting closer
Video of the ride in HD, might provide some good shots
Shots of the station ortho views from the desk of Herman Zimmerman, from a DVD extra of 'The Final Frontier', seems like he was working on the ride when he was interviewed.