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3DUniverse Class Reconstruction, USS Enterprise 1701-J

VK08VK083 Posts: 0Member
edited June 2013 in Work in Progress #1
New Project starting today with Doug Drexler and Robert Bolivar. We were yapping last week about things we'd like to see, based upon comments from the Enterprise campaign, and one that i came up with to redo and make "more better" was the USS Enterprise J from the episode "Azati Prime"

Since all Doug did was a base mesh with some textures, there's no real substance to it, so here is where we are at, making a full, high resolution model of it for rendering and other things.

Robert wrote up a brief history of the class, which is now officially "UNIVERSE CLASS" So join us as we bring this ship to life

By the beginning of the 26th century, Starfleet had re-embraced its original philosophy of exploration after several decades of hardships that plagued many of its member worlds.

Within the first 35 years, a new breed of Starship was commissioned and built. The U.S.S. Universe was the first of these massive 2 mile long ships that was designed to be multi-generational exploration mini civilization within itself. A sophisticated Artificial Intelligence, based on Dr. Noonien Soong's positronic network, helped maintain the newly designed computer system needed to run such a large ship. Its engines incorporated a new form of quantum slipstream drive (QSD) allowing it to travel faster and further than any human had ever gone.
During the ships initial mission, while under attack from an unknown species, the A.I. took a calculated risk and purposely caused a slight imbalance in the QSD allowing the ship to cross into another dimension entirely thereby escaping harm. The crew found that by utilizing this imbalance they were able to reconfigure the propulsion system into the justifiably dubbed Transdimensional Slipstream Drive (TSD). By A“piggybackingA” through nearby dimensions, the U.S.S. Universe was able to explore areas thought totally unreachable.

The reports that came back to Starfleet Command were rife with concerns. The QSD shortcuts were not always successful and it was soon realized that in order to safely use this new form of propulsion, a proper map of the nearby dimensions was needed. Starfleet sped up the timetable on the two other Universe class ships currently under construction and quickly commissioned a fourth.

The second ship to leave Spacedock was the latest in the long line of proud ships, the U.S.S. Enterprise. The NCC 1701-J was commissioned in 2552 to much fanfare and celebration.

Like the great seagoing vessels centuries before, each of these ships set out in a different direction to chart the unknown. The Enterprise J, proudest of the line, has set out on humankinds greatest endeavor.
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  • ihlecreationsihlecreations0 Posts: 0Member
    #2
    So looking forward to this!!!
  • LonewriterLonewriter236 Posts: 1,078Member
    #3
    Wow, that's one big ship. I'd like to know the complete specs. I'll keep watching this thread.
  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_1804256 Posts: 11,034Member
    #4
    Sounds cool. This is one of those "under developed" ideas that they used for an episode and never did anything else with. So, it's nice to see it's going to get a more proper treatment. The modeling looks good so far, at least what we can see of it. I love that you have the Wells class in there for scale, that really shows how massive this ship is.
  • srspicersrspicer391 Posts: 335Member
    #5
    I'm also looking forward to seeing this develop!
  • VK08VK083 Posts: 0Member
    #6
    evil_genius_180 wrote: »
    Sounds cool. This is one of those "under developed" ideas that they used for an episode and never did anything else with. So, it's nice to see it's going to get a more proper treatment. The modeling looks good so far, at least what we can see of it. I love that you have the Wells class in there for scale, that really shows how massive this ship is.
    That area where the Wells Class is, is the docking area for the Relativity or whatever Wells Class or similar ship they happen to leave there.. :)
  • RekkertRekkert4070 Buenos Aires, ArgentinaPosts: 2,307Member
    #7
    ihlecreations wrote: »
    So looking forward to this!!!

    I second that, a more detailed version of this model could be an amazing thing.
    Also, that's a pretty cool backstory, and it could also explain the war with the sphere-builders, as they originate from another dimension.
    For all my finished Trek fan art, please visit my portfolio​
  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_1804256 Posts: 11,034Member
    #8
    VK08 wrote: »
    That area where the Wells Class is, is the docking area for the Relativity or whatever Wells Class or similar ship they happen to leave there.. :)

    It carries its own time ship? Nice. What other ships/shuttles does it carry?
  • Dark SaberDark Saber1 Posts: 0Member
    #9
    I have great hopes for this model since it wasn't really seen well enough in the episode that it was featured in. Go Jen and get this Enterprise looking proper to befit the line that it is in.
  • VK08VK083 Posts: 0Member
    #10
    @EG We haven't totally figured out the design of the shuttles, we do know that it can carry at least 3 wells class ships, and about 50 or so Aeon type.. the shuttles will be 3 in kind, small, medium and landing (30 or so people)

    @Sean YOu betcha, that's the idea here, make the ship to the point that it can hold up next to the rest of the line.. You should see the nacelle sketches ;)
  • SaquistSaquist1 Posts: 0Member
    #11
    It throws away everything we know about warp and slipstream but that's the direction new Trek was taking us after Sternbach that created the fundamentals the 24th century was based on. The officialism of the Enterprise "Juliet" will be interesting. Maybe in it's completion I'll have more of an appreciation of the design. It certainly looks like wider suddenly is better at slipstream...the deflector up from certainly seems inline with the Dauntless thinking...

    Stay tuned.
  • Dark SaberDark Saber1 Posts: 0Member
    #12
    VK08 wrote: »
    @Sean YOu betcha, that's the idea here, make the ship to the point that it can hold up next to the rest of the line.. You should see the nacelle sketches ;)

    I sure would love to see the sketches. hopefully one day we can work on a ship together. Go to town on this baby.
  • BlobVanDamBlobVanDam0 Posts: 0Member
    #13
    I saw the start of this on FB. I've always thought the J was pretty interesting, and didn't have a problem with them going that direction for what little we saw of it.
    I'd love to see some orthos of it. I'm sure Doug would have on his blog, but that's not around anymore, at least not officially. :(
  • AresiusAresius359 Posts: 4,171Member
    #14
    Nice idea, I love it. I hope you can rectify/explain these overly large windows. I mean, if the ship's over 2 miles long,t hen some of those saucer-windows my be as big as an entire Defiant-class, if not even longer... What's the point of such huge windows.....
  • BlobVanDamBlobVanDam0 Posts: 0Member
    #15
    Aresius wrote: »
    Nice idea, I love it. I hope you can rectify/explain these overly large windows. I mean, if the ship's over 2 miles long,t hen some of those saucer-windows my be as big as an entire Defiant-class, if not even longer... What's the point of such huge windows.....

    My theory would be that if it's a generational ship, with people spending that much time on board, they might want to have the ability to allow as much natural light as possible in when it's available, to simulate an entire "outdoor" area.
    Then if it's too dark, artificial lighting.

    Or maybe it was a quickly put together model to be shown for 5 seconds on a TV show, and they really didn't have the time to put that much thought into it. :D I mean, look at all of the scale issues the Defiant has, and that was a hero ship!
  • VK08VK083 Posts: 0Member
    #16
    As I'm sitting here designing the window frames...

    There are some window groups on the primary hull that are as "big as the Defiant" inside those areas, are virtual cities, lakes, buildings, universities, starfleet academy, shopping, eating, etc... kinda like the ring ship from BSG. That's kind of why it has smaller support ships to go out on missions..
  • BorgManBorgMan209 DutchlandPosts: 581Member
    #17
    Ehm... We're talking about a docking bay in a 26th century ship for a 29th century ship? Why? Daniels took Archer to the J to show him the battle of Azati Prime and, taking into account Relativity, would mean that Aeons, Wells' and Daniels are all from the same time frame. Normally I'm not that big of a timelinefetishist but this ship is 300 years early :/ Letting a Dauntless-type dock in those areas would make a lot more sense. IMHO, ofcourse...

    That being said, I'm glad this ship is being fleshed out as it deserves some love. I'm curious about those nacelle sketches :D
  • DeksDeks200 Posts: 259Member
    #18
    I'm thinking it was used mainly for 'scale' purposes, but I think a better approach would be Voyager or Galaxy class. :D
  • tommygdawgtommygdawg0 Posts: 0Member
    #19
    I can't wait to see more of this!
  • Knight26Knight26192 Posts: 838Member
    #20
    I've never been big on this design, from the little we saw of it, and would like to see where you take it. That being said the fiction behind it is very interesting, and I could see it having the unintended consequence of leading to the creation of JJ 'verse. The use of that new slipspace drive might cause the supernova(s) that destroy Romulus, or something like that...
  • SaquistSaquist1 Posts: 0Member
    #21
    BlobVanDam wrote: »
    My theory would be that if it's a generational ship, with people spending that much time on board, they might want to have the ability to allow as much natural light as possible in when it's available, to simulate an entire "outdoor" area.
    Then if it's too dark, artificial lighting.

    Or maybe it was a quickly put together model to be shown for 5 seconds on a TV show, and they really didn't have the time to put that much thought into it. :D I mean, look at all of the scale issues the Defiant has, and that was a hero ship!

    Frankly to see a 2 mile long ship in it's entirely you'd have be a good distance back from it so a those windows may just be tight groups or a large number of windows that look like individual windows.

    I don't envy you texturing 2 miles of Starship
  • VK08VK083 Posts: 0Member
    #22
    BorgMan wrote: »
    Ehm... We're talking about a docking bay in a 26th century ship for a 29th century ship? Why? Daniels took Archer to the J to show him the battle of Azati Prime and, taking into account Relativity, would mean that Aeons, Wells' and Daniels are all from the same time frame. Normally I'm not that big of a timelinefetishist but this ship is 300 years early :/ Letting a Dauntless-type dock in those areas would make a lot more sense. IMHO, ofcourse...

    That being said, I'm glad this ship is being fleshed out as it deserves some love. I'm curious about those nacelle sketches :D

    It's called "We have not designed the ancillary craft yet so we are taking a really bad shortcut to make the areas work" It will in the end probably be something that resembles a very early stage Wells.. But I'm nowhere near that yet, I'm still musing over the primary warp nacelles this morning.
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  • BorgManBorgMan209 DutchlandPosts: 581Member
    #23
    Fair enough, the way I read from your post had a certain ring to me that this was the ship that should dock in there ;)

    Funny... While it might look flimsy, if one takes into consideration that these belong to a two-mile ship, all of the sudden they don't look so fragile anymore...
  • TrekMDTrekMD192 Posts: 639Member
    #24
    Cool. It'll be neat to see this design fully realized.
  • VK08VK083 Posts: 0Member
    #25
    there are days i hate my life.. today is one of them :)

    More J fleshing out.. nothing so concrete yet that it's done.. :P
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  • TALON_UKTALON_UK2 Posts: 0Member
    #26
    Like how this is developing.
  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_1804256 Posts: 11,034Member
    #27
    No wonder it's called the Universe class. You can fit a lot of Galaxies inside. :lol:

    Sorry to hear things aren't going so well for you today.
  • publiusrpubliusr550 Posts: 1,747Member
    #28
    BorgMan wrote: »
    Daniels took Archer to the J to show him the battle of Azati Prime

    I can't help but wonder if Enterprise-J was going to be the Congo class (not TOS' Kongo) with a bit of a secondary hull to it.

    Archer and daniels were in a curved section of hull well below the saucer, so that they could see the underside of the saucer hull above them.

    If Enterprise J is flat-bottomed, this would not be possible...

    --unless there was a zeppelin type cloud car underneath, or a free flying pod held in place due to field effect alone, as the segmented ships in the TV remake of DUNE or the mecha travel conveyences at the end of A.I.

    I love the flying keel seen here. Combine this with the Congo, and you will have a great side view as well.

    http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/showthread.php?75876-26th-Century-Designs

    The wide stance reminds me of the ship in this psuedo-documentary of the future:
    http://www.amazon.com/Planetary-Traveler-Nathan-House/dp/157252152X

    Truly, the warp effect as seen from inside the JJprise should only have ben used for ENT-J, as if it is more fully submerged in subspace.
  • VK08VK083 Posts: 0Member
    #29
    There is a bit o'hull on the bottom that would allow them to be where they were and see the saucer from below. The center area is like a huge rod that the saucer is set into, there's a "beam" for lack of a better term under and over the saucer section.

    Actually here this may explain it better: bottom view (no detailing yet, it's all still very early) but Doug has warned me not to use the Congo as the basis for any additions, this has to look at least from a distance like the J on the monitor. (and therefore like the studio model in the initial post with the Universe Class Reconstruction Project Banner)
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  • TALON_UKTALON_UK2 Posts: 0Member
    #30
    God, I remember that video (Interplanetary Traveller), was a showcase for relatively early CGI, remember watching it when I was first getting into it and learning how to do computer graphics at college. Heck, that's certainly a blast from the past.

    :o
  • publiusrpubliusr550 Posts: 1,747Member
    #31
    Great memories. Maybe Doug will let you do a Congo at a later date. A guest star ship. Maybe a Kelvin saucer on a NX-01 secondary hull at a later date.
    Nice toolkits here:

    Ship chart
    http://jbobroony.deviantart.com/gallery/
    http://jbobroony.deviantart.com/gallery/#/art/Federation-Starship-Recognition-Cart-378349286?_sid=34baef4e
    http://jbobroony.deviantart.com/gallery/#/art/Excelsior-type-starships-379125048?_sid=2680551c

    New Toolkits--look at the great saucers--scroll down
    http://ststcsolda.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ststcsoldashipsg&action=display&thread=25&page=4

    http://gundam1701.deviantart.com/art/U-S-S-Enterprise-NCC-1701-ver-Gar-339423852
    http://gundam1701.deviantart.com/art/Mega-Starship-Parts-Layout-Final-377534810
    http://gundam1701.deviantart.com/art/Starship-Parts-Updated-Layout-343403470
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