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vivienneanthony0
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Hi,
This is my model of the USS Enterprise 1701-H a Explorer class a Constitution refit including hints of Soverign and Galaxy. Sorry about the windows. The ship is huge so I think maybe when I do the visual effects for animation. I can add window glares to see them better and definitely adding glow and realistic lens flare.
Tell me what you think. I'm going focus on adding realistic planetary systems more then http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEIYB-7ppWY and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-behVTFOtc.
For Sci Fi buffs by the way of the sheer size. I'm thinking a quantum modulated warp drive that can do warp burst allowing faster then transwarp. Also, the saucer section separates (will do in the future). Both sections makes the Galaxy class a Tonka Toy. It has some plating but overall built tough like a Defiant. it has a frame of a similiar to the Constitution but a merged version of the Ambassador and Soverign . The ship meant to look simple and elegant as the Constitution but has the sleekness of the Soverign/Galaxy.
So, this is ship of various elements of all the classes over the generations with some thrown in technology. The phaser array or phaser hybrid blasters is on a maglev type tracks. So, the arrays can do various types of phasers at the same time. I will model that to show.
Vivienne
This is my model of the USS Enterprise 1701-H a Explorer class a Constitution refit including hints of Soverign and Galaxy. Sorry about the windows. The ship is huge so I think maybe when I do the visual effects for animation. I can add window glares to see them better and definitely adding glow and realistic lens flare.
Tell me what you think. I'm going focus on adding realistic planetary systems more then http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEIYB-7ppWY and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-behVTFOtc.
For Sci Fi buffs by the way of the sheer size. I'm thinking a quantum modulated warp drive that can do warp burst allowing faster then transwarp. Also, the saucer section separates (will do in the future). Both sections makes the Galaxy class a Tonka Toy. It has some plating but overall built tough like a Defiant. it has a frame of a similiar to the Constitution but a merged version of the Ambassador and Soverign . The ship meant to look simple and elegant as the Constitution but has the sleekness of the Soverign/Galaxy.
So, this is ship of various elements of all the classes over the generations with some thrown in technology. The phaser array or phaser hybrid blasters is on a maglev type tracks. So, the arrays can do various types of phasers at the same time. I will model that to show.
Vivienne
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Vivienne Anthony
CGI Modeling, Design, and Animation
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Actually going forward. Its a little does have some familiar characteristic of the Constitution class. Other than that nothing takes a step backwards. It has its roots from Soverign, Galaxy, and some Defiant.
I just haven't worked on the details like normal mapping and textures. Rendering would be too long to do animations.
Curious to as what those little openings on front of the saucer are. Torpedo Launchers?
(P.S. ignore colbmista. He criticizes everything and never gives any good input. I still have yet to see a model from him yet.)
What you're making is a Uber-Ship. It defies all rules, uses lots of untested, brand new technology, and can completely outrun or outsmash any fleet. It's a rookie design. The desire to make something all powerful is strong, but the thing is, people won't like it, because it throws everything out the window.
Also, as Colbmista has pointed out, your design seems to be more retro, instead of advanced. It might make for an interesting transition class between the Galaxy- and Sovereign-Class ships, but I find it hard to see as an Enterprise, only because the Enterprises always follow a progression, and the way Starfleet seems to be going by the end of Nemesis is sleeker, not as tall, and most certainly eliminating necks between the Saucer Section and Engineering hull(s). Starfleet designs also seem to be losing the classic circular saucer section, and adopting either more of an eliptical design, or even moving towards what the Dauntless had: Arrowheads, which are what I have fullheartedly embraced into 26th Century Starfleet designs.
To recap, I'm not saying your design is bad. I'm saying it needs to loose the "Quantum Modulated Warp Drive" (Slipstream would do just fine), and probably shouldn't be an Enterprise, but it's an intriguing class of ship nonetheless. It's up to you what you want to do with this advice, but I'm just passing along what was told to me. (Link to post for verification)
I do agree the sheer size of the ship is a overload compared to any Federation vessel during any time period. The characteristic of the ship to the 24th century is it shape. I agree with the point of the Federation going for sleeker design after Nemesis. I wouldn't count Dauntless because it was a imitation of a Federation created vessel.
The Enterprise -J is a awful design but it favored more of a circular saucer. Following the Federation lor Enterprise specificially at some point the Federation utilized a circular design probably in the -H or -I designation. So this is reasonable to believe the had a change of heart.
Now what would the logical reason to go to a neck and pylon design similiar to older designs to put some place between the saucer and engines, deflectors, and nacelles. If the Federation is using new technology to go further in space. I would assume the Federation would not favor a more integrated(sleeker) design considering there is no drag co-efficient in space the can give the vessel more space. As to size on numerous occasion the Enterprise -D could not fight any new powerful species including the Borg. We know what happened the first time with the Borg. I can account on one episode of TNG the Enteprise -D easily outbeatened. Also to give the saucer space to distant itself in case of emergencies.
As to Soverign class beating the Borg. Enterprise had a tactical advantage of Picard being Borg at one point. Also Voyager had a advantage because of Janeway and her unrelenting use of technology and other trickery to beat the Borg. The Defiant seemed to last the longest as shown by the movie First Contact. So, I assume a Defiant and Voyager(after modification) can beat a Borg vessel.
Now back to my design, it can outclass any Federation vessel(s) like I mentioned but the ship mission is to explore much further then the Gamma Quadrant. So as they did with the introduction with -D. The Federation opted to go big. I did create a smaller ship utilizing some of the same technology with a much sleeker design more of a tactical escort ship. I opted to have primary deflector on the bottom be able to shoot various energy beams etc used on the Enterprise-D just multiphased.
Vivienne
What you're making is a Uber-Ship. It defies all rules, uses lots of untested, brand new technology, and can completely outrun or outsmash any fleet. It's a rookie design. The desire to make something all powerful is strong, but the thing is, people won't like it, because it throws everything out the window.
Also, as Colbmista has pointed out, your design seems to be more retro, instead of advanced. It might make for an interesting transition class between the Galaxy- and Sovereign-Class ships, but I find it hard to see as an Enterprise, only because the Enterprises always follow a progression, and the way Starfleet seems to be going by the end of Nemesis is sleeker, not as tall, and most certainly eliminating necks between the Saucer Section and Engineering hull(s). Starfleet designs also seem to be losing the classic circular saucer section, and adopting either more of an eliptical design, or even moving towards what the Dauntless had: Arrowheads, which are what I have fullheartedly embraced into 26th Century Starfleet designs.
To recap, I'm not saying your design is bad. I'm saying it needs to loose the "Quantum Modulated Warp Drive" (Slipstream would do just fine), and probably shouldn't be an Enterprise, but it's an intriguing class of ship nonetheless. It's up to you what you want to do with this advice, but I'm just passing along what was told to me."
Now, something I've seen with all slipstream ships in Cannon, is that they all tend to work a whole lot better if they have sleeker designs. The Delta flyer or Dauntless both had that arrowhead/pointed front designs and could perform Slipstream perfectly well. Voyager could not. I get the feeling there's some sort of a friction coefficient when you start dealing with Transwarp or Slipstream. (More likely slipstream as transwarp seems to have no friction, as seen on borg cubes.)
As for the Enterprise - J.... It's veracity, its design depended on, and ONLY on the fact that the sphere builders were invading. If you look at that Enterprise, you'll see it's been set at almost 2 MILES wide, which was explained on ENT that it was a colonization ship, since Earth was destroyed or uninhabitable. It was built to hold cities and cities of people. IN A PARALLEL REALITY!
Archer STOPPED said parallel reality, so the Sphere builders won't be invading the Prime Timeline. Hence, the Enterprise - J will ultimately NOT look like that in Prime.
Just saying.
But look, it's your ship, not mine, so I won't argue this any further. I just see ubership now, the more and more you push for it. Sorry.
ADDED: Also, I maintain that it's a good design without the extra superarmour and core, I do like it. Just not as an Enterprise, and most deffinitely not the H
This ship will probably have no major superarmor but the core would be the same. I sketched out a model with the roots from this model that is sleeker so I am leaving that to a refit. Once my technical skills is good to make the ship I will do it as a refit. It will be sleeker and fit the profile more cannon. As to size it will still be big.
(Sidenote: I modeled the basic mesh/model of three alien ships they are much bigger along the lines of ships in Star Wars or the Cylons in Battlestar Galactica, and a starbase. Any Federation vessel the size of Enteperise -D or -E will be destroyed in seconds.)
As to ships, I did model a smaller sleeker ship that uses the same warp and deflector technology. That's being modeled at a moment. I know you might disagree with the design some but heck. I don't mind the critic so when I worked on the mesh more. I'll show you.
I'm not certain to place the ship before this model or after timeline but I'm assuming after would be best like to how the the Reliant appeared in the timeline.
I decided to redo the whole model from scratch. I cleaned up this model but decided to work on a different model. It still have some cues of this class.
The model attached is roughly the height of a Galaxy class but long. The saucer and hull does separate and could be a ship of its own much like the Galaxy. That is the only similiar thing. The model transitions from Soverign class to a newer class. My second ship called Magellan uses a secondary deflector that is actually a energy emitter. This was used on TNG a few times. Since both are future vessels they will be about even which outrun or outsmash any vessel in there time frame wouldn't happen. Consider the Magellan a Defiant fused with some aspects of Bird of Prey.
If this class was put in the TNG time period. It would take a few Galaxy class, the Defiant class(forgot the specific class name), or Promethus. So, this ship is not is not completely invincible. Just made for a different time period.
This class will have sheer size and massive power(weapons and shields). The other ship can move faster and powerful weapons and armored plating. I figured thats about even
Good luck with the windows, they are painful. I use a lot of lighted textures with an alpha mapping, but it depends on the situation, especially if you want depth.
Thank you. Although the ship is larger it has a more sleeker and flatter design like the changes of federation ships (Soverign, Defiant, Promethus). Its more plausible because of it. I add many familiar things like the neck, phaser arrays(coming), and torpedo bays(coming). I also kept the longer design for the whole warp field argument cannot be a issue.
Thanks. I'm thinking of a way to add windows.
I'm still working on the model figuring how to make the escape pods fast not manually painfully adding them. I also leveled out most of the hull. So if I decide to add windows. I can make it mesh windows.
I'm deciding to name it Independence, Branson, or Viking class. I also added a Galaxy for size reference. The goals of this class I'll write later. This would be a more Galaxy class vessel that would go beyond the Gamma Quadrant.
So the things I'm working on 1) Adding phaser arrays to hull 2) Adding ends to phaser arrays 3) Add some detail lighting 4) Add escape pods
Vivienne
About the ship itself, I believe you can work a little more over the naceles, since the shape donAât fits very well with the shipAâs body.
I keep your point in mind. The thing that been bugging me was that bottom part of the front of the nacelle. I still want to keep some form of scoop or maybe I just remove it later while working on the hull and see what happens. Still wondering what class this would be. I am thinking Potamkin or Independence class.
I added escape pods on the saucer including protective plating around them. I also end capped the phaser arrays.
This is the redesigned nacelles the bottom area. The ram is more intergrated with the design and sleeker to match the ship.
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You are about right. Its not a super huge number but comparable to size and shape of the ship. There is about the same amount of people or aliens who could fit into the escape pods.. I am assuming at this time emergency evacuation transporters would be used in addition to escape pods.