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  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann572 Posts: 1,252Member
    edited November 17 #662
    Kind of, I never really stuck with it enough to really get the hang of it. I have an Apple Pencil that won't hold a charge (ancient one, if I ever get a new iPad I might toy with getting something compatible and try again). I do remember having my old one connected to my iPad through some second screen software (can't remember what it's called) and using that for a while).

    I also remember way way back in the day using a mouse to colour my art and that was... so much work, I never liked doing it because it felt like I had to do the art over and over, masking out spaces and all that and I think I would still have to do that if I went digital, to an extent. I feel very run-and-gun with my art, I don't want to say rushing it but I don't like to spend hours on a thing (another reason I'd never gotten into modeling, the other one being that I could never figure out the basics).

    I feel like I do need to learn to paint and so on, actually give all these designs colour and life. I do like using the markers and so on, even if it does kind of limit what colour schemes I can do.

    What's kind of hilarious to me is that I keep thinking of my paper as being bigger when the screens are the same size and can zoom in and out... maybe it's the intimacy level, the paper is close to me, the laptop screen is further away.

    I will say, one thing I've noticed with digital artists is how often they'll erase and resize their stuff as they're working, and while my art isn't perfect, I do like the challenge of having to get things more or less right the first time, or embracing the mistakes and letting them roll into something new. For example, that older picture of Eager Young Space Cadet, her eyes are slightly not right. Digitally I would have fixed that, but having to look at it makes me more aware of it the next time I draw.

    I also like the immediacy of paper, if it's right, it's right, if it's wrong, it's wrong.
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  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann572 Posts: 1,252Member
    Okay, I'm going to bump this up now that the page has finally turned over.

    New sketches. Well, new to you, these have been sitting in my sketchbook for ages.

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    A blown-glass style spaceship. Maybe a sister ship to the giant glass greenhouse I designed for Eden's people ages ago.

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    Tried to mix a yacht and a bullet train together for this one.

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    Trying to sketch out a character for an Eager Young Space Cadet. Not quite sure what her uniform style will be, hence the bare shoulders (there are like 3 t-shirt variants as well.

    Actually drawn her before, but it's way back on the last page, so...

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    See, I figure the triangle shoulders would be for officers, not cadets, so... she's cute in it but it doesn't quite feel right.
    StarriggerLizzy777
  • StarriggerStarrigger410 Posts: 683Member
    Kind of,...

    It's funny that for the same reasons you like the pen/paper combo, I like my digital setup, I feel very free to experiment, and "Just go with it." When I work with "real" media I'm more concerned about not wasting the resources and such. (I do have piles of sketches and writings that will probably never see the light of day though) , and sadly I have lost drawings along the way in moves and such.... I do think that if we work in the media that we are comfortable with we either get complacent and boring, or we feel free to just be us, and run with it... I really enjoy your work and love the marker stuff I have seen here.
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  • StarriggerStarrigger410 Posts: 683Member
    A gift from me to you, hope you don't mind.. A little digital with your physical...

    Since I didn't know what you were thinking by way of colors, I just picked what I saw in my head...

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    Lizzy777
    Come on over to my place CGI Worlds
  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann572 Posts: 1,252Member
    edited November 17 #666
    I don't mind at all! She turned out great (wow, I didn't think I did THAT many lines... that's another thing, when I do digital colour I feel the need to add more detail and make it more realistic). Kinda had this highlighter glow to it as well, which feels a bit analog too in a good way. I will say, the shoulders are right on, was imagining a whole different fabric being used for them (and the matching triangles on the sleeves. I guess it's extra padding for when they have to wear backpacks/seatbelts? And for beneath the wrists when you're typing, now that I think about it.

    Yeah, I'm not sure what the colour of her uniform would be, I keep fluctuating between a certain grey (which might be too bland) and a particular shade of purple (the one I used for the seat in the courier pod), with the piping usually being Trek colours b/c I can't think of anything else atm. I feel like she'd be blue.

    The idea of the uniform, or at least the jacket (I never figured out anything for the trousers) is comfort, you're wearing this all day, it should be comfortable, it's fitted, it's got a nice lining... the issue is that it's still a little too Trek so I need to give it more flavour without making it too complex.
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  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann572 Posts: 1,252Member
    edited November 19 #667
    Some of my old colours from back when I was doing that.

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    Female pirate characters for a scrapped idea called 'Sea Dogs." I used to have such a clean line, but such poor bodies.

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    My first attempt to paint over a pencilled sketch.

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    Me trying to colour with markers.

    These all have to be like... geez, 15 years old at least. So probably worth another crack at it.

    So I think that in future, if I wanted to do colour, I would have to design the drawing for it from the start, rather than just colour lineart. My style has always been sort of simplified (someone called it "simplified realism" or something like that ages ago, I can't recall the exact term off the top of my head), and I think I've leaned more into the "less is more" mentality, and I feel like I'd have to approach the colour with the same mentality. The alternative is to try to add all this detail through colour to simple lineart and have the two clash with each other.
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    StarCruiserStarriggerLizzy777
  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann572 Posts: 1,252Member
    edited November 19 #668
    Okay, here's another reason I like analog. I tried to open Photoshop and all of a sudden it didn't work. I think I might be able to fix the problem, but I don't want to upgrade it if I can avoid it b/c of the Pantone issue. i can use Pixelmator in the meantime, but still... app problems are inevitable. I'm not going subscription with tools, that feels insane to me.


    Since we're talking colour, here's the last thing I did in colour that i can think of. Posted it on my insta (where I think there's a more rounded sense of my style), but I'll show it here just for context.

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    I was actually worried I'd screw this up, so I basically redrew it. I can't recall if I was intending it to be bold, but I wanted to use the colour to really emphasize how close/apart the characters are.


    And since this is a sci-fi board, here's an older drawing (surprised how old it actually IS), for a shelved project.

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    StarCruiserStarriggerLizzy777
  • BlueNeumannBlueNeumann572 Posts: 1,252Member
    edited November 21 #669
    And finally some art done just this day!

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    Pinstriped gangster, wanted to turn the person into part of the suit, I like the idea of a simple pinstriped face. The question was how simple and how human did I want to make it. He's meant to be an unblinking mass, after all.

    halfway through, I thought I'd replace the flower in his lapel with a Venus flytrap type bug, to make him even more dangerous. Then I thought "what if THAT'S the gangster and he's controlling the whole suit?"

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    Inspired by the "Meet Your Meat" bit in Restaurant At The End Of The Universe, I wanted to make him a little weirder and beefier (and less like a dude wearing a heavy suit lying down, though I failed at that part). I thought it would be fun to add a couple more animals together, was definitely seeing a bug and I thought the legs could be like a giant chicken leg each, though with finds instead of claws.

    I love pig monsters, and actually these reprogrammed Pig Slavers I thought of ages ago feel like they fit with this other idea, people keep growing pig monsters. Some are eaten, others are programmed with basic instructions and sent out to do simple tasks.
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    Lizzy777StarCruiserStarrigger
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