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3DRomulan War Destroyer
evil_genius_180
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This is a ship IA’m building thatA’s based on a design that Madkoifish posted the other day. He drew this sketch while he was waiting for something to render. I wish I could draw like that.
Slightly revised version:
Anyway, I immediately liked the sketch and said I may have to nab it, to which he replied, A“go for it.A†So, I did. While he designed the ship to be a TOS ship, the design really lends itself to any Trek era, as we later discussed. So, I decided to do mine in the Romulan War era, just over a century before TOS. HereA’s my back story on the ship:
As tensions were rising between Earth and the Romulan Star Empire, war was inevitable. The duty of protecting Earth fell to Starfleet. As an organization dedicated to peaceful exploration of space, the idea of going to war was an alien one, but Starfleet officers were trained for combat. While the NX-class ships were handy to have in a fight, each ship took over a year to build and required a large crew to operate. Starfleet Command realized that they would need ships in a hurry, so they needed ships that took less time and resources to build and less people to operate. This thinking gave rise to the destroyer. Unlike StarfleetA’s earlier vessels, the destroyers were pure warships. The design was smaller and more nimble than an NX-class, but had no less firepower. Each ship had a crew of thirty, less than half the crew of an NX-class. Crew quarters were small, with only the captain and first officer getting private cabins. The rest of the crew shared quarters with one other person. Due to their small size and focus on warfare, the ships had no science labs and only a basic sickbay. Crew facilities were limited to one mess hall and the crew ate Starfleet field rations to save on cargo space, which was very limited. Unlike the larger ships, these vessels werenA’t designed to operate for long periods of time in deep space. Instead, the ships would launch from a Starbase or other command post, fly to an area to fight, and then return. If they were used for patrols, their time on station was limited to a few months. Destroyers saw a lot of action in the war, leading to a number of StarfleetA’s larger victories.
Following the war, the ships in this class were used for defense. They would be assigned to a planet or Starbase, or would act as escorts for colony convoys. Some ships were also used for border defense.
Anyway, the build so far is pretty easy, though time consuming. ItA’s a lot of box modeling and subdivision. I started yesterday and this is where IA’m at now:
I meant to add the warp nacelles today, but I never made it that far. I started on the deflector housing, then I got started on paneling. After that, I added the RCS thrusters and impulse engines. So, it can move at sublight speeds.
Slightly revised version:
Anyway, I immediately liked the sketch and said I may have to nab it, to which he replied, A“go for it.A†So, I did. While he designed the ship to be a TOS ship, the design really lends itself to any Trek era, as we later discussed. So, I decided to do mine in the Romulan War era, just over a century before TOS. HereA’s my back story on the ship:
As tensions were rising between Earth and the Romulan Star Empire, war was inevitable. The duty of protecting Earth fell to Starfleet. As an organization dedicated to peaceful exploration of space, the idea of going to war was an alien one, but Starfleet officers were trained for combat. While the NX-class ships were handy to have in a fight, each ship took over a year to build and required a large crew to operate. Starfleet Command realized that they would need ships in a hurry, so they needed ships that took less time and resources to build and less people to operate. This thinking gave rise to the destroyer. Unlike StarfleetA’s earlier vessels, the destroyers were pure warships. The design was smaller and more nimble than an NX-class, but had no less firepower. Each ship had a crew of thirty, less than half the crew of an NX-class. Crew quarters were small, with only the captain and first officer getting private cabins. The rest of the crew shared quarters with one other person. Due to their small size and focus on warfare, the ships had no science labs and only a basic sickbay. Crew facilities were limited to one mess hall and the crew ate Starfleet field rations to save on cargo space, which was very limited. Unlike the larger ships, these vessels werenA’t designed to operate for long periods of time in deep space. Instead, the ships would launch from a Starbase or other command post, fly to an area to fight, and then return. If they were used for patrols, their time on station was limited to a few months. Destroyers saw a lot of action in the war, leading to a number of StarfleetA’s larger victories.
Following the war, the ships in this class were used for defense. They would be assigned to a planet or Starbase, or would act as escorts for colony convoys. Some ships were also used for border defense.
Anyway, the build so far is pretty easy, though time consuming. ItA’s a lot of box modeling and subdivision. I started yesterday and this is where IA’m at now:
I meant to add the warp nacelles today, but I never made it that far. I started on the deflector housing, then I got started on paneling. After that, I added the RCS thrusters and impulse engines. So, it can move at sublight speeds.
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The beginnings of the nacelles and pylons are in place.
Presently, this thing is 98.55 meters long, 71.8 meters wide and 21 meters tall. I don’t expect the length or width to change much from here on out, but the height will definitely change when I add the bridge.
Good, cute. The very look I was going for with my warship.
I toyed with the idea of doing this one Voyager era after I did the deflector housing. Then I did the RCS thrusters and that changed it back to Enterprise era.
More stuff. I added the bridge module (the dome will be added later) and some docking ports last night, I just didn’t post them. “Alien” was on Encore, so I listened to that while I was working, even though I have it on DVD.
Now, to some people, the bridge and docking ports may seem a little “tall.” That’s because they’re realistically scaled. As I’ve said a whole lot of times in the past, scaling issues are a pet peeve with me. For ships built out of plastic, scaling issues are going to happen. It’s a fact. For example, the original Enterprise is full of them. Originally, the bridge was taller and there was only one line of windows in the teardrop and saucer edge. However, when they changed the ship for the series version, they shortened the bridge and added second lines of windows to those structures. With the ship scaled to its fictional measurements, the series bridge minus the dome is only 2.5 meters tall, which doesn’t match the internal sets. Likewise, there really isn’t enough room for two full-sized decks in the teardrop or saucer edge. But, that was the 1960s and, like I said, plastic models.
However, these things still happen. Even on a well thought out and designed ship like the NX-01, there are some iffy measurements. One great example is the docking ports. Scaled to its fictional length of 225 meters long, the docking port hatches, including the frames, are only 1.5 meters tall. As we saw in the episode “Vox Sola,” the hatch itself isn’t even that large. While it varies by country, the average height for men in the US and UK at present is 177.6 centimeters, which is 1.776 meters. I’m closer to 1.91 meters tall, and there are a lot of taller people than me out there. So, most people would have to really stoop to get through a less than 1.5 meter opening.
In my humble opinion, there’s just no excuse for scaling issues in CGI. Build everything at 1:1 scale and you’ll be fine. So, for my ships from this era, I’ve increased the size of the ports quite a bit. The door frame is 2.4 meters tall, the opening itself is 2.0716 meters tall. While some taller people will still have to stoop, at least not all of us will. (note: this series supposedly takes place 150 or so years in the future and average height will be taller by then, but that’s beside the point)
Also, I avoided putting docking ports on the saucer edge because I didn’t like how they looked. The port structure is nearly as tall as the saucer edge, leaving little room for an indentation.
Thanks.
Speaking of small craft, I want to do a slightly modified version of one of the Enterprise-era shuttle pods to go with the ship, but I can't find an accurate size on the thing. The best I've found is "about the size of a minivan." :rolleyes: I may have to just do something original.
Looking forward to seeing your take on the shuttle. I've already begun my own.
It is really interesting to see how people interpret a single view or image. I will refrain from making comments on shape design etc as I want to see how others develop the ship from the painting.
I definitely like your design, though I of course threw in some influences of my own. One thing I like about single views is that they're very open to interpretation. Sometimes, I'd rather work on something like that because there's not the need to be accurate like there is with something like the Enterprises, which are so well documented that everybody knows when you do one single thing wrong.
I'd still love to see how you would build it sometime.
You know, something has bugged me about that part of Star Wars for years. For the guy who was supposed to be leading the attack, Gold Leader sure did fall to pieces under pressure. I don't know why Red Leader wasn't Gold Leader, he appeared to be older and definitely had his stuff together much better than Gold Leader did. From a tactical standpoint, it makes more sense to have your most senior and experienced pilot do the first attack run, since you don't know how many you're going to get. (That's why Luke went last.)
Then, of course, in ST5, they had ships but they needed James Kirk. That goes to that thing you were talking about where Kirk is put on a pedestal and supposed to be better than everyone else.
I think the absolute worst is Generations. Just where was the Ribbon in the opening? Enterprise-B was supposed to be making an in-system flight. Okay, fine. The Ribbon must be incredibly close to Sol if they're the only ship in range. Why wasn't it being tracked? Where did it go after? Where the f*ck was the rest of Starfleet in the Sol System?