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3DBig Bad Dreadnought

calamity_sicalamity_si361 Posts: 369Member
edited June 2013 in Work in Progress #1
Directly inspired by the USS Vengeance from Star Trek Into Darkness, this is a slightly more traditional Federation Dreadnought (with 3 nacelles) geared for battle. I am experimenting with the very angular almost 'stealth' appearance of the ship. Still playing around with this so please keep checking back for updates.:thumb:

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Model link: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=a9ec2d241b289b51ee86e0e72754043
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  • madman1701amadman1701a339 Posts: 366Member
    #2
    Ooh, I like the shape of that! I was planning to do a 3-Nacelle version of my Vengeance as well, when it finally gets done.

    -Ricky
  • AresiusAresius359 Posts: 4,171Member
    #3
    Not sure about the nacelle design and the centre torus of the bridge, but the rest of the design is awesome.
  • bbzwbbzwbbzwbbzw1 Posts: 0Member
    #4
    The primary hull reminds me of the driod control ship from the star wars prequels. Nicely modeled.
  • calamity_sicalamity_si361 Posts: 369Member
    #5
    Thanks guys,
    Aresius wrote: »
    Not sure about the nacelle design and the centre torus of the bridge, but the rest of the design is awesome.
    I'm still working on those pesky nacelles, I wasn't happy with them either. I know the saucer is a bit 'Star wars droid federationey' but again, workin on it. More updates soon! ;)
  • spacefighterspacefighter2 Posts: 0Member
    #6
    i like the unusual overall design but think that it may be improved by making the parts smoother and more curved. actually i quite like the nacelles but they should be smoother and less angular as should the rest of the model. i know the vengeance was angular but this would look better smooth. best thing is the surprise you could cause during animating this(my link on converting to blender perhaps) when the camera moves up(or ship turns down) and from what looks like an "ordinary" trek ship you suddenly see that unusual saucer.
  • RekkertRekkert4055 Buenos Aires, ArgentinaPosts: 2,305Member
    #7
    Nice! You managed to make a 3 nacelled ship I like! :lol:
    The whole design looks very good, is the saucer section inspired by the concept art of the Vengeance? It looks pretty similar.
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  • calamity_sicalamity_si361 Posts: 369Member
    #8
    Thanks for the comments guys. I've been tweaking the engines a bit tonight. I wanted to provide some kind of warp nacelle grille or glowing vent but I also wanted it to look segmented and well-armoured.
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  • StarshipStarship466 São Paulo - BrasilPosts: 1,977Member
    #9
    It has potential my friend.
    Go ahead :thumb:
  • meugen06meugen06334 Posts: 5Member
    #10
    Nice one.The saucer section reminds me of Trade Federation ships from SW Ep.1.
  • calamity_sicalamity_si361 Posts: 369Member
    #11
    meugen06 wrote: »
    Nice one.The saucer section reminds me of Trade Federation ships from SW Ep.1.

    Yeah, I've been getting a lot of that reaction on this model. Responding to those comments, I've been working this morning on changing the shape of the saucer cut-out slightly so that it hopefully looks a bit less like the Trade Fed Battleship. The new saucer is shown on the left, the old one on the right. What do you think?

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  • SaquistSaquist1 Posts: 0Member
    #12
    That's probably why the Vengeance used angles and lines instead of concentric circles to define the gap.
  • calamity_sicalamity_si361 Posts: 369Member
    #13
    Saquist wrote: »
    That's probably why the Vengeance used angles and lines instead of concentric circles to define the gap.

    Yeah upon playing with it for a while now, I can see that that may indeed be the case. Here's another angle, hot off the press!

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  • spacefighterspacefighter2 Posts: 0Member
    #14
    calamity_si wrote: »
    Thanks for the comments guys. I've been tweaking the engines a bit tonight. I wanted to provide some kind of warp nacelle grille or glowing vent but I also wanted it to look segmented and well-armoured.
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    awesome grid lines and shape of glowing bits.
  • AresiusAresius359 Posts: 4,171Member
    #15
    I actually don't mind the design of the saucer section, I mean the bridge-section. The central torus looks plainly wrong. Like an overdone stack of pancakes with chocolate between....
  • TrekMDTrekMD192 Posts: 639Member
    #16
    meugen06 wrote: »
    Nice one.The saucer section reminds me of Trade Federation ships from SW Ep.1.
    I was just going to say the same thing and that's the aspect of the ship I did not like. Otherwise, the overall shape and design is pretty cool.
  • lennier1lennier1913 Posts: 1,283Member
    #17
    Not a fan of the JJverse, but at least you decided to combine the superior concept drawing with something traditional.
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  • Judge Death.Judge Death.1 Posts: 0Member
    #18
    I really can't see the point of the open saucer with a lot of space in it, it makes the sacuer bigger for the same volumn.

    Now one idea might be a honking phaser cannon mounted between the ends of the saucer that was so fraking big and generated such a EM field and waste heat load it has to be mounted 'semi externally" to keep from frying the ship with EM emissions and waste heat.

    Trek has never been big on 'spinal mount" weapons except for the revised 1710-1 d in the last TNG ep, but you could try it as an experiment.

    The cannon could be mounted between the flanges on the front, and they could have big waste heat/coolant plasma vents angled back to vent coolant plasma (Possibly hydrogen collected by the bussards?) above and below the ship while not facing directly forward and making them a harder target. It might have to vent a few tons of superheat coolant as incandescent plasma whenever it fired that monster.

    Excess EM byproduct from the cannon itself could be emitted above and below the actual weapon mount in the middle.

    I think that one klingon vessel in tng, vorcha class(?), had a cannon for a nose so the idea could be given some trek validity.

    Another option, a little less trekish but still valid could be to leave the saucer front as it but have those flanges generate a containment field that a huge amount of energized plasma (or for a real bang, anti matter based plasma. Oh my!) was pumped into and released at a target, sort of like a fed attempt to copy/improve on the romulan weapon seen in 'balance of terror".
  • calamity_sicalamity_si361 Posts: 369Member
    #19
    That's exactly what I've been working on. Good call! What do you think?

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  • calamity_sicalamity_si361 Posts: 369Member
    #20
    And another angle...

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  • SaquistSaquist1 Posts: 0Member
    #21
    NOW I know what's so familar...those are Jemhadar Warp nacelles!
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    I think that stabilizes the design a great deal.
  • calamity_sicalamity_si361 Posts: 369Member
    #22
    Saquist wrote: »
    NOW I know what's so familar...those are Jemhadar Warp nacelles!
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    I think that stabilizes the design a great deal.

    Weeeell, yeah, ya got me! Keen eye there Saquist, I tip my hat to you sir. In my defence, it wasn't a case of being lazy. I genuinely thought the shape, with several modifications, would suit this overall design. In any case, even the sfx crew from the old star trek days were known to re-use parts etc...but thank you.

    Actually, I must add a big thank you to everyone here who has commented and critiqued this design. Without your constructive observations and suggestions, this design would not have evolved as much as it has done. So cheers!:thumb:
  • calamity_sicalamity_si361 Posts: 369Member
    #23
    Here are some basic Sketchup orthos as well...
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  • SaquistSaquist1 Posts: 0Member
    #24
    I think the nacelles were a good idea, Nacelles can make or break the look of a ship
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    The front view is the most interesting.
  • Judge Death.Judge Death.1 Posts: 0Member
    #25
    calamity_si wrote: »
    And another angle...

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    Damn good ideas, keep at it. The idea of a specifically designed warship having the biggest gun possible could be a good one.

    You might want to add some sort of targeting scanners to the ends of the supports to make it look like a stereoscopic targeting system for maximum aiming accuracy, just an idea.
  • calamity_sicalamity_si361 Posts: 369Member
    #26
    Today's progress...(Including those scanners you mentioned, Judge Death):thumb: I'll try to post some more if I can render them in time.

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  • spacefighterspacefighter2 Posts: 0Member
    #27
    calamity_si wrote: »
    That's exactly what I've been working on. Good call! What do you think?

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    nice as this spinal mounted weapon is i think it was better when you just had a cylindrical bridge at the centre and a sliced saucer as you did a few posts previously.
  • spacefighterspacefighter2 Posts: 0Member
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    calamity_si wrote: »
    Today's progress...(Including those scanners you mentioned, Judge Death):thumb: I'll try to post some more if I can render them in time.

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    very nicely textured but i think the texture should be higher resolution to avoid the graininess. nice two tone grey patterning on the lower hull at the rear.
  • Judge Death.Judge Death.1 Posts: 0Member
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    calamity_si wrote: »
    Today's progress...(Including those scanners you mentioned, Judge Death):thumb: I'll try to post some more if I can render them in time.

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    Does need higher rez textures, but looking good.
  • calamity_sicalamity_si361 Posts: 369Member
    #30
    Sometimes less is more, so I've decided to release two versions of the ship. This one does not have the phaser lance or third nacelle. I have also replaced the central bridge core with something a little more robust looking. All in all, I think the ship looks a bit more simple and graceful.

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  • SaquistSaquist1 Posts: 0Member
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    There are a lot of aspects of this design I really like....That complex around the central core is interesting... This has a some real potential.
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