Not that most of Trek is a model of perfection but JJ Trek abandons reality regularly.
You're misunderstanding my point. Star Trek is sci-fantasy and always was. I'm saying, JJ Abrams is the first director associated with Trek to build a believable WORLD. And design is a key part of that. Lord of The Rings abandons reality all the time but the world that was created in the books and later, the films, is wholly believable. That is what JJ Abrams has achieved in his Star Trek. A complete living, breathing world in which the story takes place. With nearly all other Trek before this you had to pretend the low budget wobbly plywood set painted bright blue and red was a real starship bridge. In Abrams Trek you can simply sit and witness a believable world.
I would have to disagree with that... since science fantasy is a mixed genre within the umbrella of speculative fiction which draws upon tropes and elements from both science fiction and fantasy, and sometimes also incorporates elements of horror.
In fact, Neil deGrasse Tyson considers Star Wars science fantasy... haha. Which is why he likes Star Trek, for it's attempts at portraying real physics.
Anyway, this is Madman's Vengeance thread...
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I learned about space from Star Trek. I saw the (andromeda) kelvins from the TOS episode and knew the difference between galaxies and star systems. Many confuse that.
Once, a talk radio personality tried to say the Voyager probe was leaving the galaxy. I knew better at six years old.
Please everyone, keep the discussions of this thread STRICTLY to the topic at hand: The model ship which is being made, and not have stupid rants about your trek preferences! The size of captain kirks hands are relevant to the topology of this mesh how?
Hopefully I will get this on BluRay soon, so I can see what the ship looks like better: the references available are extremely scant. Not really a fan of the design either, but it had some really cool bits to it. Good luck with the mesh, this is a hard ship to do!
Hopefully I will get this on BluRay soon, so I can see what the ship looks like better: the references available are extremely scant. Not really a fan of the design either, but it had some really cool bits to it. Good luck with the mesh, this is a hard ship to do!
Even in the blu-ray, there are very few shots that are clear without motion blur to see details...
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Though admittedly, those rotating Gatling phaser drone missiles caught me off guard o.O
Haha.
Another aspect that throws me off, are those ginormous cannons that are deployed, I don't even know where those weapons come from (I know they're at least in the saucer, but where?) when Marcus goes to fire on the Enterprise and Scotty sabotages the ship, since they're not visible in any of the shots following their deployment... that I saw...
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Another aspect that throws me off, are those ginormous cannons that are deployed, I don't even know where those weapons come from (I know they're at least in the saucer, but where?) when Marcus goes to fire on the Enterprise and Scotty sabotages the ship, since they're not visible in any of the shots following their deployment... that I saw...
I say its on the back part of the saucer, where the "throat" of the ship is.
The only I don't like about the Vengeance is the purple impulse engines. Red would of been better looking.
Going have to watch the movie again today to note other things. The smartglass app is pretty sweet for looking for these kinda things.
Your right to an opinion does not make your opinion valid.
Can't wait to see more of this baby, I'm gonna have to dust off and do a redesign of my Vengeance Megazord now that more reference material is coming out.
Can't wait to see more of this baby, I'm gonna have to dust off and do a redesign of my Vengeance Megazord now that more reference material is coming out.
I saw enough of it on DS9
Your right to an opinion does not make your opinion valid.
When ever has a mans hands swollen to 3x times their original size not result in compartment syndrome, nerve damage and extreme spiking in blood pressure?
23rd century medical science might just be a bit better than ours today, and bones likely treated all side effects of the condition right there and then along with the cause
-you can't witness the destruction of a planet by blackhole from another planet...with the human eye and survive (even Stargate SG-1 got this right)
thats true of a natural black hole, this one was anything but and it only consumed the mass from a single planet - that means its gravity field would in fact be no greater than that of the planet - the artificial singularity only allowed all the planets own gravitational field to collapse the planet since the the material that fell into it was be compressed leaving a void - otherwise there would have been no need to actually drill a hole into the core of the planet - a genuine black hole anywhere near would have done the job
that said it sounded like they were on a planet in another system - not a moon of vulcan which is the only thing that would have been close enough to witness by eye
all that said finally saw into darkness yesterday on blu ray - damn good film - nice tribute to the wrath of khan - the vengeance - hmmm not sure - it certainly looks menacing but you never get a great view of it - but does seem a bit to much of a departure from standard federation design - and surely the enterprise should have been able to take a bit more punishment - did better against a 24th century borg enhanced romulan ship
anyway model looks pretty accurate to what i saw but as i said not the greatest shots of it even in the film
He told me via email that all he really has left to do is some detail parts and textures... he's hoping to get it done before the official blu-ray release.
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He told me via email that all he really has left to do is some detail parts and textures... he's hoping to get it done before the official blu-ray release.
Chris is indeed correct... just a few detail parts, cleanup, and textures left.
I was working on it some last night, and took some more pictures. It's not 100% accurate, after having the QMX Artisan Replica photos to look at, but it's close enough for me.
Hopefully textures will start appearing this weekend... they ought to be easy enough. There's only one pattern, and no lettering anywhere.
Looking great Madman. I didn't like this ship at first but she has grown on me. I just hope that some model companies release plastic or resin kits here soon. I think she is becoming my 2nd favorite canon ship behind the Enterprise D. Heck I even have her as my cover photo on my Facebook.
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You're misunderstanding my point. Star Trek is sci-fantasy and always was. I'm saying, JJ Abrams is the first director associated with Trek to build a believable WORLD. And design is a key part of that. Lord of The Rings abandons reality all the time but the world that was created in the books and later, the films, is wholly believable. That is what JJ Abrams has achieved in his Star Trek. A complete living, breathing world in which the story takes place. With nearly all other Trek before this you had to pretend the low budget wobbly plywood set painted bright blue and red was a real starship bridge. In Abrams Trek you can simply sit and witness a believable world.
I would have to disagree with that... since science fantasy is a mixed genre within the umbrella of speculative fiction which draws upon tropes and elements from both science fiction and fantasy, and sometimes also incorporates elements of horror.
In fact, Neil deGrasse Tyson considers Star Wars science fantasy... haha. Which is why he likes Star Trek, for it's attempts at portraying real physics.
Anyway, this is Madman's Vengeance thread...
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Once, a talk radio personality tried to say the Voyager probe was leaving the galaxy. I knew better at six years old.
Hopefully I will get this on BluRay soon, so I can see what the ship looks like better: the references available are extremely scant. Not really a fan of the design either, but it had some really cool bits to it. Good luck with the mesh, this is a hard ship to do!
Even in the blu-ray, there are very few shots that are clear without motion blur to see details...
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And to add, I happened to like the Venny. Though admittedly, those rotating Gatling phaser drone missiles caught me off guard o.O
Haha.
Another aspect that throws me off, are those ginormous cannons that are deployed, I don't even know where those weapons come from (I know they're at least in the saucer, but where?) when Marcus goes to fire on the Enterprise and Scotty sabotages the ship, since they're not visible in any of the shots following their deployment... that I saw...
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I say its on the back part of the saucer, where the "throat" of the ship is.
Also, there's little door-like things in front of the deflector dish that partly close after the Vengeance drops out of warp...
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Going have to watch the movie again today to note other things. The smartglass app is pretty sweet for looking for these kinda things.
Can't wait to see more of this baby, I'm gonna have to dust off and do a redesign of my Vengeance Megazord now that more reference material is coming out.
I saw enough of it on DS9
thats true of a natural black hole, this one was anything but and it only consumed the mass from a single planet - that means its gravity field would in fact be no greater than that of the planet - the artificial singularity only allowed all the planets own gravitational field to collapse the planet since the the material that fell into it was be compressed leaving a void - otherwise there would have been no need to actually drill a hole into the core of the planet - a genuine black hole anywhere near would have done the job
that said it sounded like they were on a planet in another system - not a moon of vulcan which is the only thing that would have been close enough to witness by eye
all that said finally saw into darkness yesterday on blu ray - damn good film - nice tribute to the wrath of khan - the vengeance - hmmm not sure - it certainly looks menacing but you never get a great view of it - but does seem a bit to much of a departure from standard federation design - and surely the enterprise should have been able to take a bit more punishment - did better against a 24th century borg enhanced romulan ship
anyway model looks pretty accurate to what i saw but as i said not the greatest shots of it even in the film
I think that was one of the points... if I recall what I've been reading about it...
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He told me via email that all he really has left to do is some detail parts and textures... he's hoping to get it done before the official blu-ray release.
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Sweet!! Can't wait to see it.
Chris is indeed correct... just a few detail parts, cleanup, and textures left.
I was working on it some last night, and took some more pictures. It's not 100% accurate, after having the QMX Artisan Replica photos to look at, but it's close enough for me.
Hopefully textures will start appearing this weekend... they ought to be easy enough. There's only one pattern, and no lettering anywhere.
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