AnimationTOS Remastered Projects

Chris2005

Since I've been suggested to, to combine threads together, if they're of a similar project, I think I'll dedicate this thread to just TOS remastering projects...

The first video is (My VFX - Star Trek: TOS "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (Complete))

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So, the thumbnail for the thread will change for each finished TOS remastering video... the thumbnail for the previous projects post, will be then put image tag... and their will be a link to the post, of the corresponding thumbnail, at the time.

Which episode do you think I should do next... I'm leaning towards "Tomorrow is Yesterday," "Balance of Terror," or "The Tholian Web, "The Trouble with Tribbles."

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Buckaroohawk

I can't choose which project you should do next, but I'm sure whichever you decide to do it'll look great!

evil_genius_180

That's some really nice animation. The only thing that's really lacking for me is some textures on the ship. It looks too bare. It should have a heavy amount of weathering, even more so (perhaps even some visible damage) after its encounter with the barrier. Also, should not the barrier be casting some pink hues onto the ship as it approaches? Anywho, just small things that would enhance the already great animation, IMO.

Personally, I'd love to see The Tholian Web next. Those are all great choices but I really love the web spinning part of the effects shots and can't wait to see how you do it. :cool:

Chris2005

evil_genius_180 wrote: »

That's some really nice animation. The only thing that's really lacking for me is some textures on the ship. It looks too bare. It should have a heavy amount of weathering, even more so (perhaps even some visible damage) after its encounter with the barrier. Also, should not the barrier be casting some pink hues onto the ship as it approaches? Anywho, just small things that would enhance the already great animation, IMO.

Personally, I'd love to see The Tholian Web next. Those are all great choices but I really love the web spinning part of the effects shots and can't wait to see how you do it. :cool:

I was trying to stay with how the original show looked, whilst still doing it in CG.

I did a shot from the episode a while back, Oct. 2, 2007 to be exact:

But I didn't do any more from it.

evil_genius_180

OK, gotcha, it's an homage to the original.

Very nice effects shot from The Tholian Web, I like it.

Chris2005

evil_genius_180 wrote: »

OK, gotcha, it's an homage to the original.

Very nice effects shot from The Tholian Web, I like it.

Thanks.

Dr-Timelord

While I think your animation effects are top notch, Have you thought about changing the camera angles around and making it your own interpretation instead of just as its seen on the show?

I mean when they did Star Trek: Remastered, they changed alot of the exterior ship and planet shots to than blended in better and didnt seem so re hashed.

If you choose, Balance of Terror, do something we havent seen yet, and time to put your own stamp on it

You've shown that you can match shot for shot, but I would like to see you do something with a Zing

Chris2005

Dr-Timelord wrote: »

While I think your animation effects are top notch, Have you thought about changing the camera angles around and making it your own interpretation instead of just as its seen on the show?

I mean when they did Star Trek: Remastered, they changed alot of the exterior ship and planet shots to than blended in better and didnt seem so re hashed.

If you choose, Balance of Terror, do something we havent seen yet, and time to put your own stamp on it

You've shown that you can match shot for shot, but I would like to see you do something with a Zing

I have put some thought into it, like just now, the shot of the Enterprise traveling at impulse after their encounter with the barrier, is the shot from the remastered episode, and not the stock shot from the original version of the show.

Well, when I change things to much, they just never seem right to me, for some reason, they seem off...

However, as for the barrier in the remastered version, I wish I knew how they made the barrier gaseous looking, I can't seem to find any way to do that, and volumetrics never show up right, and are to limited...

Chris2005

evil_genius_180

That's a really nice job on the effects from The Tholian Web. My only criticism is that the flare on the phasers firing seems a bit too strong. It lights up the whole scene, even the starfield. If you tone that down a bit, I think that shot will look a lot better.

Chris2005

evil_genius_180 wrote: »

That's a really nice job on the effects from The Tholian Web. My only criticism is that the flare on the phasers firing seems a bit too strong. It lights up the whole scene, even the starfield. If you tone that down a bit, I think that shot will look a lot better.

Thanks, yea, it does seem a bit bright, easy fix though.

Chris2005

It's finally done, I'll be redoing some of my other TOS videos, that I had to remove, due to a persons request over using their model... so expect to see them redone next.

evil_genius_180

Someone requested that you not use their model?! As a person who has released a few models on the internet over the years, I have to say: WTF?! What was the point in releasing it if you don't want people to use it?! I've seen a few projects (still images and animation) where people have used my models and I've been stoked just because someone wanted to use my stuff. But different strokes for different folks. Hopefully, it was a model for which you can easily find a replacement.

The effects look awesome, great work. My favorite parts are the orbiting shots, orbiting Earth and orbiting Sol. Though, everything looks great.

Chris2005

evil_genius_180 wrote: »

Someone requested that you not use their model?! As a person who has released a few models on the internet over the years, I have to say: WTF?! What was the point in releasing it if you don't want people to use it?! I've seen a few projects (still images and animation) where people have used my models and I've been stoked just because someone wanted to use my stuff. But different strokes for different folks. Hopefully, it was a model for which you can easily find a replacement.

The effects look awesome, great work. My favorite parts are the orbiting shots, orbiting Earth and orbiting Sol. Though, everything looks great.

Yea, but sometimes, that's life, I guess.

Well, the replacement being used is KnightRider's TOS Connie.

Thanks.

evil_genius_180

KnightRider's Connie is awesome. I really like the way it looks in that effects sequence.

Chris2005

I'm thinking of doing some more Voyager videos next... then I may come back to more TOS stuff...

evil_genius_180

That looks great, especially the phasers firing on the planet.

It's interesting, but I don't think about how few effects shots with the ship that some of these episodes have, that one doesn't have a whole lot compared to some of the episodes. I never realized that until I saw them all in a row like that.

Chris2005

evil_genius_180 wrote: »

That looks great, especially the phasers firing on the planet.

It's interesting, but I don't think about how few effects shots with the ship that some of these episodes have, that one doesn't have a whole lot compared to some of the episodes. I never realized that until I saw them all in a row like that.

Yea, it doesn't have a lot of shots.

BolianAdmiral

Great job on the phaser FX!

Chris2005

BolianAdmiral wrote: »

Great job on the phaser FX!

Thanks.

Chris2005

New Version:

In comparison to the old version:

I do notice a drastic different in quality, especially when it comes to ambient type things, like in the original version, to get the darker side to appear lighter than black, I just increased Max's ambient color... now instead of doing that, I use GI, and in this version 2 as it were, using AO... drastic differences...

Chris2005

Moving onto 'The Doomsday Machine' FX... what I plan on doing is using the remastered sequences as reference, but giving it the 60s look like this video.

evil_genius_180

From what I can tell, it looks good. I'm on my laptop right now and it's not playing very well. I'll have to watch it later on my desktop.

BolianAdmiral

I like what you've done, but the one thing that always bugs me about every "remastered" version of the TOS credits that anyone does, is that the ship approach/flyaway never changes... it always looks the same way, like a poorly-mounted/angled model that's flying in an unnatural way.

I wish someone would change that so that the ship is at a correct angle, and flies by and away in a natural and believable way, much like the flyby of the Defiant in "In A Mirror, Darkly". Pics below to illustrate:









I mean, IMO, the whole point of remastering TOS, is to make it more realistic, not to keep the VFX as cheezy. Just my two cents. As I said, I like your approach... I just wish people would address that flyby bit with more realism.

Chris2005

BolianAdmiral wrote: »

I like what you've done, but the one thing that always bugs me about every "remastered" version of the TOS credits that anyone does, is that the ship approach/flyaway never changes... it always looks the same way, like a poorly-mounted/angled model that's flying in an unnatural way.

I wish someone would change that so that the ship is at a correct angle, and flies by and away in a natural and believable way, much like the flyby of the Defiant in "In A Mirror, Darkly". Pics below to illustrate:

I mean, IMO, the whole point of remastering TOS, is to make it more realistic, not to keep the VFX as cheezy. Just my two cents. As I said, I like your approach... I just wish people would address that flyby bit with more realism.

Well, when they remastered it, they didn't want to change it too much, while they wanted to improve it, they still wanted to honor the original... as do I... many people weren't thrilled with what they did for TOS-R... the first few episodes had the same FOV as the original shots, then they got creative... in the remastered episode of "Miri" the FOV shots of the Enterprise look closer to the original, just in CG...

TNG's flyby's during the credits are the same way... although at a more straight forward angle to the camera...

evil_genius_180

Chris2005 wrote: »

Well, when they remastered it, they didn't want to change it too much, while they wanted to improve it, they still wanted to honor the original... as do I... many people weren't thrilled with what they did for TOS-R...

Yeah, all of that. I like your work because it's an homage to the original. I liked Balance of Terror from TOS-R but and a few others where they did the effects like the original, but I don't care for their more "creative" approaches. In fact, I stopped watching those after a while.

BolianAdmiral

Like I said, it's just my opinion. Every time I see that opening ship flyby on TOS-R, I just have to shake my head, because fixing the way that looked would have been so easy, and looked so much better.

Chris2005

BolianAdmiral wrote: »

Like I said, it's just my opinion. Every time I see that opening ship flyby on TOS-R, I just have to shake my head, because fixing the way that looked would have been so easy, and looked so much better.

True, true.

scifieric

Very nice work, but I think the "dirt" splotches were too well defined and large (and cyclical). Very, very nice work.

Chris2005

I think it's done... lol.

NanoGator

Okie doke, I'm officially declaring a 'do over' meaning the conversation I just deleted is now over. We're all good, we're all done, let's move on.