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Turbosquid is selling my Churhill
Anarion338
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Turbosquid is selling my Churchill for 10 bucks. I'm not sure who would buy it, because I gave out for free.
But I am pissed.
Anarion.
But I am pissed.
Anarion.
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Next thing you know one or all of the following possibilities may occur:
Its being sold online,
Someone in China is using it to drive a CNC mill and building crap wooden models from it (that would no doubt dissolve in a moderate fog),
Someone is building a resin kit out of it and selling it
George Lucas has eaten it (The big fat git, honestly his company has ripped off or threatened to legal action to SFM members at least 3 times - I'm amazed anyone still likes his ****ty movies or still builds copies of the models.)
Its being used in a game,
Someone else is redistributing it as their own
Someone else is making images with it and telling people they made it themselves.
i'm all about lists today....
Anyway, sound familiar? If you've ever released a mesh here or elsewhere it may do, and it will either cost you time and / or money or pride... Unless you decide you don't care and like, whatever. If you're not prepared to take that risk don't do it... You could release a model once and find you're periodically having to deal with these things potentially for as long as you give a crap about it.
All we can guarantee at SFM is that if the offender shows up here, and you prove its your model etc, we will ban the fool, forever... which is far more than you can expect off many sites *cough*deviantart*splutter/pukes*
Otherwise we can only offer you our support i'm sure, and a shoulder to cry on, you have my sympathies, I personally released a few models, one that i released in 2002 has been ripped off many times and just last month i had to deal with another situation with that exact model, nearly 10 years after release. It can eat into your time.
HOWEVER if say i say "ok its free and royalty free to use as long as you leave me a credit" and you run off make a buck and don't leave me a credit you have legal case there....the case in point is any models i use that are others there will be credit given ....especially in the learning phase....
I've done some odd stuff with characters myself and gave em TOTALLY free out there....i want you and everyone to use it and if hollywood big wigs are using free stuff to make the cg with then what is the cost to make the movie/tv ep then? WELL its a lot less and they should be charging a lot less then ...it leads a stronger argument for that.
my 2 cents ....from 30 years a programming and computers graphics all way back to a commodore vic 20 ROFL.....
I also gave credit to all those involved in Star Trek that I knew of Andrew Probert etc.
That is why I never felt comfortable with the idea of selling it myself.
To chronoss2008: I'm not whining. Reading your post I think you feel the same way but perhaps it has happened to you so many times that you do not care anymore.
BTW....I started modelling with Turbo Silver on the Amiga and then Imagine before I used Max.
I was one of the original members of Sci-fi Art with Pedro and Tachy.
My brother, who passed away in 2006, was very proud of my Churchill Model. He forbade me from releasing it on the internet for this reason. I eventually did because others were kindly giving their work to the community and I decided that I should as well. So you see this is very personal for me. My brother would be extreamly upset that someone is selling it online.
Having said that, since it is a derivitive, you are limited in what you can get back, generally the best you can hope for would simply be an apology and removal of your content from a 3rd party site. For your future model releases though, you should add a creative commons (google it) license note to each file in a readme for a derivative work/original design, it'll help these kind of claims in the future immensly.
A few of the old salts here have been in this situation, so they can give you more info if necessary, for the life of me I can't remember who exactly though, heh.
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Nope, wrong. Completely wrong. There are copyright laws set up to protect artists against just this type of thievery. Look it up. This model was an original work of art and it is copyrighted by nature of its existence. Technically, even if it had been an Enterprise model, it would have been copyrighted also. Though, as Nadeisco said, there are issues with "derivative" works, but they're still protected. And, as this is an original design and is only "Trek" in name, it makes for an even stronger case.
As for "Lucas did this" or "Lucas did that." Firstly, Lucas doesn't do anything. His peons do stuff and he collects money. I doubt he's very "hands on" about anything with The Clone Wars. (Executive Producer credits don't mean you're overseeing the day-to-day operation) They show him a design, model or animation, claim it's theirs, and he either signs off on it or doesn't. Secondly, Lucas' companies do stuff like this but it makes it no more legal than stealing someone's mesh and selling it as your own. Your work they used was copyrighted. However, many of Lucas' peons simply don't care and take that "we're licensed, so it's ours anyway" attitude, even though they're completely wrong.
Qapla!!!
Sad that so many bad things happen.