Dunno about this, but had a weird idea for a Trek ship this morning and was sketching along, so I had to make a quick model in 3D...what do you guys think? Any promise? I flipped the nacelles around from 2 down to 2 up. Supposed to be sort of a Oberth/Constellation class. I'm also bothered that Star Trek barely has any fighters...i might make an updated star trek fighter, somethign after when the Maquis stole them.
It a different take on a Trek ship.
Has feeling of a mix design between the Vulcan ships seen in Enterprise and Earth Starfleet. I like it.
The one thing that bugged me about the Earth ships seen in Enterprise is that they looked to much like ships of the Federation. Before Enterprise came out I was always under the impression that the look of Federation ship came from the founding member putting the best of their technology together which gave us the look.
The NX in Enterprise should have the design seen in TMP.
@Freak ... now that you‘re saying it, I can see the Vulcan influence.
Maybe it‘s from an alternate Timeline, where the Vulcans didn‘t refuse to share their technology with earth but instead helped them build ships capable of high warp right from the start.
@Freak ... now that you‘re saying it, I can see the Vulcan influence.
Maybe it‘s from an alternate Timeline, where the Vulcans didn‘t refuse to share their technology with earth but instead helped them build ships capable of high warp right from the start.
Those might have looked like this 🤔😁
Yeah that's actually what I ended up thinking in the back of my mind...maybe a sign of the times...so I sorta ran with that idea of the Vulcans sharing technology and kinda imagining a Starfleet Skunk Works type of agency, making one-off ships trying out new things in the Excelsior era while messing with transwarp drive...
I can almost see this as also being the testbed prototype for the phaser 'strip' arrays that we start seeing in the Ambassador class, then TNG & beyond. Because the ring setup, in conjunction with how, post-TMP the phasers were directly linked to the warp drive, you could immediately shunt power from the drive to phasers. Meanwhile it also has 'normal' dual turret banks.
Sort of a 'two birds, one stone', type of prototype?
I could see this as a massive weapon platform.
Up to 12 phaser array strips in the ring (forward, backward, outside) and forward and backward firing torpedo launchers in the ring connections.
I've always appreciated the "ring nacelle" configuration. It's probably what would be used with an Alcubierre type warp drive. This reminds me of the IXS Enterprise concept.
I absolutely love the latest iteration, it's now part of the TMP era fleet in my head-canon.
Also, I just noticed, if you remove the ring and the bottom support bellow the torpedo launcher, it looks a lot like a Sabre-Class hull. Perhaps a variant with conventional warp nacelles attached to the saucer edges was tested, and it gave the Corps of Engineers the idea of what would become the Sabre?
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Thanks guys for the kind words on the concept, just getting back into the mood after lots of work and finishing up some other side projects. Those are some great ideas there, I like the idea of the phaser strip concept especially.
This design looks great.... she's going to look beautiful sweeping past the camera.... I'd love to see this design applied to later era ships as well...
the only thing i'd say is have you tried it with a more traditional deflector? I know you've probably chosen the triangular one to break from the norm.. and it looks great... i just wonder if it would compliment the ring? Just a thought... feel free to tell me to keep my thoughts to myself however
haha i was thinking more along the lines of designed overall with the ring in mind as opposed to just replacing the warp nacelles with a ring... but definitely interesting to see...
And, of course, they also used the ring warp engines for most of the Vulcan ships on Enterprise. That's why most people think of warp engines when someone puts rings on Star Trek ships.
Would have been interesting if the nx01 was a ring ship... Would have really sold the this is trek before trek vibe they were going with...
Yeah, there were a lot of different ideas. I understand the FX crew wanted something more along the lines of the Daedalus class, but the producers insisted on using the Akira class as a starting point.
yea i guess the akira silhouette is more identifiable as a star trek ship.... i guess they just chose the safer design.... i guess i've gone off and somehow created my own universe where instead of the twin nacelle design the phoenix had a ring drive.... and the first warp ships followed this design until they developed warp nacelles.....
I've hijacked you thread sorry japetus!!!! Its late time to go to bed i think
Personally, I prefer the previous iterations of both the warp ring and the deflector dish. The cleaner lines of the ring without the extrusions at the top, bottom and sides look better IMO (and more similar to the Vulcan warp drives of Enterprise); while I felt like the trapezoidal deflector was a better fit for that portion of the hull, fitting nicely into the front of the 'keel'.
Still, I'm very much in love with your concept.
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Personally, I prefer the previous iterations of both the warp ring and the deflector dish. The cleaner lines of the ring without the extrusions at the top, bottom and sides look better IMO (and more similar to the Vulcan warp drives of Enterprise); while I felt like the trapezoidal deflector was a better fit for that portion of the hull, fitting nicely into the front of the 'keel'.
Still, I'm very much in love with your concept.
Yeah, was trying the top and bottom nacelle things again, I'll probably remove them. There was way too much glowing going on with the ring and deflector so I tried to tone it down. Going somewhere between original and enterprise-a all blue deflector.
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If you’re going with the ring: it’s a little inconsistent, that it goes through the nacelle on top but the nacelles on the bottom are on the ring.
Has feeling of a mix design between the Vulcan ships seen in Enterprise and Earth Starfleet. I like it.
The one thing that bugged me about the Earth ships seen in Enterprise is that they looked to much like ships of the Federation. Before Enterprise came out I was always under the impression that the look of Federation ship came from the founding member putting the best of their technology together which gave us the look.
The NX in Enterprise should have the design seen in TMP.
Maybe it‘s from an alternate Timeline, where the Vulcans didn‘t refuse to share their technology with earth but instead helped them build ships capable of high warp right from the start.
Those might have looked like this 🤔😁
Yeah that's actually what I ended up thinking in the back of my mind...maybe a sign of the times...so I sorta ran with that idea of the Vulcans sharing technology and kinda imagining a Starfleet Skunk Works type of agency, making one-off ships trying out new things in the Excelsior era while messing with transwarp drive...
Version 1: Enlarge the nacelles a tad, because they seem a bit small.
Sort of a 'two birds, one stone', type of prototype?
Up to 12 phaser array strips in the ring (forward, backward, outside) and forward and backward firing torpedo launchers in the ring connections.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqRhLEHgwgTKxsalM5YznYQ
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Also, I just noticed, if you remove the ring and the bottom support bellow the torpedo launcher, it looks a lot like a Sabre-Class hull. Perhaps a variant with conventional warp nacelles attached to the saucer edges was tested, and it gave the Corps of Engineers the idea of what would become the Sabre?
the only thing i'd say is have you tried it with a more traditional deflector? I know you've probably chosen the triangular one to break from the norm.. and it looks great... i just wonder if it would compliment the ring? Just a thought... feel free to tell me to keep my thoughts to myself however
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And, of course, they also used the ring warp engines for most of the Vulcan ships on Enterprise. That's why most people think of warp engines when someone puts rings on Star Trek ships.
Those are really cool. I admire anyone who can kitbash plastic models.
Yeah, there were a lot of different ideas. I understand the FX crew wanted something more along the lines of the Daedalus class, but the producers insisted on using the Akira class as a starting point.
I've hijacked you thread sorry japetus!!!! Its late time to go to bed i think
Still, I'm very much in love with your concept.
Yeah, was trying the top and bottom nacelle things again, I'll probably remove them. There was way too much glowing going on with the ring and deflector so I tried to tone it down. Going somewhere between original and enterprise-a all blue deflector.