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Ashley's Star Trek WIP Thread

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  • BrandenbergBrandenberg517 CaliforniaPosts: 1,011Member
    Looking forward to more.
  • ashleytingerashleytinger278 Central OhioPosts: 375Member
    edited July 23 #243
    psCargile wrote: »
    Excellent stuff. Deflector pod is a nice touch.

    Thank you! I didn't want to go with the saucer mounted Saladin style and saw a Miranda TOS take with the Deflector kind of in something like that, so I thought I'd make my own with a much less complicated design to fit the era. ;)
    I really like the history of the ship. :)

    Thank you! It kind of evolved as I was cutting her up. I just knew I wanted a civilian ship that could ferry personnel, had the saucer look, and she kind of evolved from there. Part of the idea came from the Wizard off Deadliest Catch. Wizard started off as a fuel hauler in World War II and got refit into a fishing boat years later. I figured if a World War II navy ship was kicking around as a civilian fishing boat, why couldn't a Starfleet scout have ended up as something similar?
    Interesting, bussard work too.

    Thanks! I wanted something a little different and couldn't decide on a look for the warp nacelles but I knew how I wanted them to work so I built the internals for it first. Nacelle Internals Mostly completed

    Zhor2395 wrote: »
    Well now, that's a nice sight =)

    Thanks!
    Freak wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with being Nerdy.
    It just means your passionate about your project. We are all like that otherwise we would not love these franchises.


    love the ship history BTW.

    Very true and thank you!

    Looking forward to more.

    Well I've been prepping around the house and at work for a vacation this week along with a heat wave and a malfunctioning AC so I'm a bit.. exhausted really. I need these days off. Probably going to be modeling a bit this weekend when everyone is asleep. Got my sickbay revamp to work on and my Phase II bridge controls to detail ;)

    I did throw this together using MadMan's Defiant refit that Mattymanx converted to Poser.

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    Mainly gives it a sense of scale but I wanted to see it 'in the wild' as well. ;)



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  • ashleytingerashleytinger278 Central OhioPosts: 375Member
    edited August 7 #244
    Back to interiors! Engineering station components are done. On to Communications!

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    The Communications station has a LOT of console bits to it. Makes me respect Uhura even more. Holy hell were ship communications complicated in the 23rd Century. 12 more parts to the Communications station to model and then on to the science station. Only 6 of those are on the console, the rest are part of the display screens.

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  • FreakFreak492 Posts: 3,516Member
    Very Cool!
  • ViperViper645 Posts: 480Administrator
    Wow, those controls are awesome! Nice work.
  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_180816 Posts: 8,752Member
    That is some really nice work.
    Holy hell were ship communications complicated in the 23rd Century. 12 more parts to the Communications station to model and then on to the science station. Only 6 of those are on the console, the rest are part of the display screens.

    And to think, in the 24th century, all they do is press the "hail" control on the tactical or ops consoles. :P (yes, I know there's more to it than that)
  • ashleytingerashleytinger278 Central OhioPosts: 375Member
    Freak wrote: »
    Very Cool!

    Thanks! Lots of little work to doing this manually. Hoping that it doesn't kill the render times when I port it over to DAZ lol

    Thanks!
    Viper wrote: »
    Wow, those controls are awesome! Nice work.

    Thanks! Still got quite a few to do but it's coming along :)
    That is some really nice work.
    Holy hell were ship communications complicated in the 23rd Century. 12 more parts to the Communications station to model and then on to the science station. Only 6 of those are on the console, the rest are part of the display screens.

    And to think, in the 24th century, all they do is press the "hail" control on the tactical or ops consoles. :P (yes, I know there's more to it than that)

    Thanks! Yeah Worf and Data make it look so damned easy. They had a computer fine tuning everything while Uhura had to do all this fine tuning with power regulation from the Warp and Impulse engines, tuning into the right subspace band, making sure there was a relay in between... Oi.

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  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_180816 Posts: 8,752Member
    Now I'm thinking about Galaxy Quest.

    "Like I know where the 'hold' button is."
  • ashleytingerashleytinger278 Central OhioPosts: 375Member
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    I honestly have zero idea if I'm going to continue with this or not, but I wanted to see what this would have looked like beyond the blueprints from Phase II. This was the concept, or blueprints, for the Klingon bridge from Phase II before it got massively overhauled to become the Klingon bridge in the Motion Picture. @Donny posted the blueprints over on the TrekBBS site and I decided to give it a quick pass (like 2 hours) to see what it looked like built, roughly.

    It would definitely need refinement, especially as this is a partial set. Through the doors is just a series of wild walls and where the camera is rendering from in the first shot is just completely open. It works as a small set but you're limited on angles.

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  • FreakFreak492 Posts: 3,516Member
    Don't think I seen those blueprints.
    But it an interesting concept.
  • ashleytingerashleytinger278 Central OhioPosts: 375Member
    Freak wrote: »
    Don't think I seen those blueprints.
    But it an interesting concept.

    I hadn't either until Donny shared them. ;)

    Definitely going to play a bit with the set but first...

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    Poking around a little bit at my 24th Century ship interior, I had a rethink about my Engineering plans after checking out some blueprints that were recently put in front of my eyeballs and I'm thinking that I will probably go this route. The idea is to open up Engineering so it's not the cramped set-up I built for the 23rd Century version, but also, it's not nearly as automated as say the Enterprise D, think mid-24th Century. I'm keeping the same basic warp core area and set-up but it's built to contain the core and JUST the core. No extras. Warp engines are dangerous. So it'll have that and a big door that can drop in emergencies. The area just passed the core is a big kind of meeting area with several consoles around it and the 'pool' table. Not all of this is going to be consoles as one wall is going to be turned into access panels and the wall opposite that will be the massive MSD for the ship. 4 entrances/exits in this area, one being a turbolift. At the back end is the Chief Engineer's office (and head but I'm probably not going to model the head) and in a side alcove there's either going to be a small break area or one of those huge clear displays and then we have a set of four consoles and a wraparound console. The main entrance to Engineering will be open and have the big doors except during Red Alert when that will seal off except for authorized personnel.

    This is a LOT bigger than what I'd originally planned, and I might bring the sides in a bit. This is also EXTREMELY rough as I'm just trying to get a feel for this and even see if I want to pursue it.

    Overall I think I like the feel as it's bigger and overly complicated than the TMP/Phase II Engineering set I built and it's not as streamlined as the Engineering of the ships in the later 24th Century so it kind of fits in that gap.

    Has it really been 7 months since I touched this set?? Oi.

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  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_180816 Posts: 8,752Member
    It looks like a good setup.

    On a side note, it both brings back fond memories and induces a slight shudder to see that Truespace interface again whenever you post screenshots. ;)
  • MadKoiFishMadKoiFish1224 West of the right nutPosts: 3,840Member
    lol, yeah it reminds me of the 90s. Used TS way back in 96 97?

    Really like that klingon bridge.
  • ashleytingerashleytinger278 Central OhioPosts: 375Member
    It looks like a good setup.

    On a side note, it both brings back fond memories and induces a slight shudder to see that Truespace interface again whenever you post screenshots. ;)

    Thanks! Can't take all the credit as the basic layout is in the Khai Tan technical manual, although I've changed several things about it.

    I try not to include the interface but at this point in the re-work renders just didn't seem worth it LOL
    MadKoiFish wrote: »
    lol, yeah it reminds me of the 90s. Used TS way back in 96 97?

    Really like that klingon bridge.

    I started with it back in 96. I've tried Blender, Lightwave, even Sketchup, but I just end up going back to what I know how to model in even if it's ancient.

    And thanks! I've decided to flesh it out a bit from the partial set and make it more of a full set. Planning a Klingon version and a Romulan version.

  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_180816 Posts: 8,752Member
    edited August 22 #256
    I tried Truespace 2 back in 2000, because it was a lot cheaper than LW and Max. I tried Blender in '05 but couldn't make heads or tails of it. Then I found out TS 3.2 was free and used that, TS 4 and TS 7.6 for several years. I switched to Lightwave in 2012 and nowadays fluctuate between that and Blender. Blender has really come a long way since '05, and I really like it. But, seeing that TS interface definitely brings back some nostalgia.
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  • ashleytingerashleytinger278 Central OhioPosts: 375Member
    I tried Truespace 2 back in 2000, because it was a lot cheaper than LW and Max. I tried Blender in '05 but couldn't make heads or tails of it. Then I found out TS 3.2 was free and used that, TS 4 and TS 7.6 for several years. I switched to Lightwave in 2012 and nowadays fluctuate between that and Blender. Blender has really come a long way since '05, and I really like it. But, seeing that TS interface definitely brings back some nostalgia.

    Yeah I only use it to model. Can't be sticking with those mid to late 90s render shots ;)

    Apparently I needed a break from building the TMP consoles and cleaning up a set because I just dove into this face first.

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    Copied over the basics and the warp core area I'd previously detailed and started refining the bracing, the wrap around console, a high wall mounted wall piece that mirrors the same wall part from my 24th Century Corridor set, and imported some basic wall sets to give actual exits to Engineering you could have people walk in from. You can see my rough work in the background.

    I slapped some quick labels on various parts so it's a bit more obvious when I talk about different areas I'm working on.

    One big change, while I generally kept placement the same, I did slim the area down a bit and instead of having jutting entrances everything for the most part follows the walls as a result. Makes it easier on me with the bracing and it fits in better with my previously established 24th Century corridor aesthetics.

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  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_180816 Posts: 8,752Member
    That's looking great.
    Yeah I only use it to model. Can't be sticking with those mid to late 90s render shots ;)

    Good call. I don't even think it has specular mapping. I think that was added in TS4.
  • ashleytingerashleytinger278 Central OhioPosts: 375Member
    That's looking great.
    Yeah I only use it to model. Can't be sticking with those mid to late 90s render shots ;)

    Good call. I don't even think it has specular mapping. I think that was added in TS4.

    Yeah it definitely does not have specular mapping. lol

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    Imported a few more parts from the corridor sets I'd already built and worked them into the Engineering set. Also brought in the clear displays from the corridor and dropped in a wall of access panels. I decided that Engineering isn't going to have a break area. The smaller consoles are in and I settled on a design for the Master Systems Display. I also imported the Diagnostics table from the CIC I'd built. I like the design and since TNG just used the same table from TVH, I can use my table I built for Phase II in my set. :P

    I'm trying to work out how to build my wall of isolinear chips. I'm thinking at least 6 banks of them but I'm not sure how detailed I want to get, if at all, with the chips. I'm thinking uncovered and loose, so a simple texture is out. That and the design of the wall. Oi.

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    After going over screenshots from The Naked Now, I finally settled on the layout and set-up for my wall of isolinear control chips. Since this is going to be the only place they're visible in this version of Engineering I slotted in 6 of them instead of 3. Also put in the panel details on each one even though in the episode the panel in the middle was the only one to have the detailing.

    Left to do:
    Refine the cross-beams
    Ceilings
    install ladder and access ports for the Jefferies Ladder (need ceiling first)
    Chief's Office and furniture
    Back wall
    blank wall details (probably swiping these from my TMP Transporter set)
    Jefferies corridor
    turbolifts
    regular corridor section
    LCARS graphics
    ST IV-VI graphics versions for 'older' engine room


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    Very rough sketch of an idea I've had for a few weeks. While I do love the TOS Bird of Prey and the revamped design Atolm did for a refit, it's never sat well with me that the Bird of Prey in Star Trek III was supposed to be a Romulan vessel. Yeah it's Klingon in the film but it was built long before they'd changed the villains from the Klingons to the Romulans. For a Romulan ship though, it lacks... elegance.

    So, my school of thought here, is this Bird of Prey was started about the same time as the Klingon version and they had the same basic design idea down. The Klingons wanted a fast strike ship that was small and agile and could run with minimal crew and looked savage. The Romulans, growing tired of the Klingons need for barbary, went in another direction. Taking the lesson they learned from the TOS plasma weapon, they refined their weapon and bird of prey design so that it was still fearsome, but they had also started screwing around with artificial singularities to power their ships, so instead of just impulse, they had a full blown warp drive once again.

    To give their Bird of Prey a more elegant look, as well as provide more space for power, they built the wings in a fixed position, and using their Vulcan ancestry, built their warp engines in the spirit of the Vulcan ring ships and into the wings of their ship, leaving a very haunting glow to come off the back of the wings and a highly unusual warp signature on enemy scanners. Since the plasma weapon was taxing, even with the singularity, they added modified disruptors that they lifted from the Klingons to the center of their wings where they could draw the most power with less effort.

    Slightly larger than the Klingon version, which was tagged more as an aggressive scout, the ouye'Llaihr class was considered a frigate or corvette as it patrolled along the borders before the Romulans self-imposed exile through most of the 24th Century.

    Obviously, this is a sketch. One that I really think I want to turn into a full blown model for some Starfleet Captain to need a change of pants after getting a look at it.

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  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_180816 Posts: 8,752Member
    It looks interesting.

    Fun fact: In a deleted scene extension, Commander Hansen (the outpost commander) mentions that Romulan spies must have stolen design ideas from Starfleet, that's why the original Bird of Prey strongly resembles a Federation ship. Had they kept the Romulan connection in Star Trek III, I think it's obvious that the Romulans would no longer be stealing ideas from Starfleet. ;)
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  • ashleytingerashleytinger278 Central OhioPosts: 375Member
    It looks interesting.

    Fun fact: In a deleted scene extension, Commander Hansen (the outpost commander) mentions that Romulan spies must have stolen design ideas from Starfleet, that's why the original Bird of Prey strongly resembles a Federation ship. Had they kept the Romulan connection in Star Trek III, I think it's obvious that the Romulans would no longer be stealing ideas from Starfleet. ;)

    Very true. It also lends to some of the less than Klingon behavior in Star Trek III. Probably left over from the original Romulan involvement.
  • evil_genius_180evil_genius_180816 Posts: 8,752Member
    Yeah, Kruge went through some changes along the way. He was originally Romulan, of course, but even in the final script he wasn't necessarily a typical Klingon commander. He was a war lord, hence being called "My Lord" and wasn't your typical Klingon officer.
  • FreakFreak492 Posts: 3,516Member
    That a very cool Looking Bird of Prey and fits nicely with the Klingon/ Romulan Alliance, but it also fits with Romulan ships we see in the TNG era.

    I hope you do build this.
  • BrandenbergBrandenberg517 CaliforniaPosts: 1,011Member
    Build it. :)
  • ashleytingerashleytinger278 Central OhioPosts: 375Member
    Freak wrote: »
    That a very cool Looking Bird of Prey and fits nicely with the Klingon/ Romulan Alliance, but it also fits with Romulan ships we see in the TNG era.

    I hope you do build this.

    I am most definitely laying out some better plans. :)
    Build it. :)

    It's on my project list. :)
    Yeah, Kruge went through some changes along the way. He was originally Romulan, of course, but even in the final script he wasn't necessarily a typical Klingon commander. He was a war lord, hence being called "My Lord" and wasn't your typical Klingon officer.

    Very true. It's also possible that Kruge and his crew were outliers that embraced some of the Romulan hierarchy along with the tech? *shrugs*
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