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Star Trek Interiors

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  • StarscreamStarscream229 Posts: 1,049Member
    ^ good point; those angles are a bit harsh on the eye. :)
  • BolianAdmiralBolianAdmiral237 Posts: 1,637Member
    Starscream, the exterior of the Frontier is your standard TNG Galaxy-Class. I’m not really a fan of the fanon trend of modifying the exteriors “just to look cool”. I mean, look at all the Miranda and Excelsior-Class ships we’ve seen... none of their exteriors were changed, really.

    As for the interior, the doors will definitely be changed, so those are temporary. I like the steps the way they are, and there will be refinements/additions that will bring other elements in line with the more angular nature of the buttresses.
    Starscream
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  • ashleytingerashleytinger86 Central OhioPosts: 215Member
    Starscream, the exterior of the Frontier is your standard TNG Galaxy-Class. I’m not really a fan of the fanon trend of modifying the exteriors “just to look cool”. I mean, look at all the Miranda and Excelsior-Class ships we’ve seen... none of their exteriors were changed, really.

    As for the interior, the doors will definitely be changed, so those are temporary. I like the steps the way they are, and there will be refinements/additions that will bring other elements in line with the more angular nature of the buttresses.

    Fair enough. Not my bridge. ;)

    I do like the look, I've just been looking at the 'Bridge of the Week' and looking at ways to make it look less like a 'bridge on a budget' and that's been one of my things I've been itching to try but am involved with other things. I totally get where people would want it the other way. :)

  • StarscreamStarscream229 Posts: 1,049Member
    edited February 28 #1835
    I'm totally with Ashley re the "guest bridges" -- we're not constrained by budgetary considerations, in fact with Rekkert's modelling skills it's like we have a pseudo studio budget! :lol: But of course, if you're intentionally going for more angular aesthetic then it's a different matter entirely. :)
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  • BolianAdmiralBolianAdmiral237 Posts: 1,637Member
    Don’t worry... like Rekkert says, a lot of what you see here is temporary. I have a plan. Trust the Admiral. :)
  • StarscreamStarscream229 Posts: 1,049Member
    Hmm... Admirals don't have a very good track record in Trek! :lol:
  • BolianAdmiralBolianAdmiral237 Posts: 1,637Member
    edited February 28 #1838
    Well there was Admiral Kirk... :p
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  • StarscreamStarscream229 Posts: 1,049Member
    And look what happened to him! He got demoted!

    And then a bridge fell on him!

    A bridge made of SCRAP!!



    HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DIE ON THE BRIDGE, NOT UNDER IT!
  • ashleytingerashleytinger86 Central OhioPosts: 215Member
    Starscream wrote: »
    And look what happened to him! He got demoted!

    And then a bridge fell on him!

    A bridge made of SCRAP!!



    HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DIE ON THE BRIDGE, NOT UNDER IT!

    I SAID ACROSS HER NOSE NOT UP IT!

    Sorry couldn't resist.

    Starscream
    • Like - Starscream on February 28, 2019.
  • Rusty0918Rusty0918177 Posts: 321Member
    Well, I understand that there are many fan refits of the Galaxy that are tacky. Mikori's Astreus, which inspired my Battle Group Omega edition USS Galaxy is one of the better ones, and won me over; it's much better aesthetically than the AGT refit.
  • JMP11JMP112 Posts: 86Member
    Sweet, the Odyssey, but with a budget! =) I’m looking forward to how it turns out!
  • AresiusAresius336 Posts: 4,116Member
    Love the scheme of the Frontier.....
  • RekkertRekkert339 Buenos Aires, ArgentinaPosts: 1,572Member
    edited March 2 #1844
    Keep in mind the all red carpet on the higher levels of the bridge is temporary, once the outer frame is finished, only the borders will be red, and the inner sections blue, just as on the lower level (and the TNG bridge).

    As for the steps, yeah, these are just a first version that are simple extrusions out of the wall, like I said, a lot of stuff is temporary. :)

    On a side not to Rusty's point, I do agree that the Astraeus refit is by far the best fan-made Galaxy refit there is, from some angles it looks a lot better than the standard Galaxy IMO.

    I've been working on the frame and on joining pieces together, so not a lot of visible changes at this stage, however I've extended the ceiling lights from the Odyssey all the way to the back end of the bridge. These will require further refinement and details, but at least I can show the bridge better illuminated going forward. :p

    Also, I've done the first of many planned modifications to the horseshoe, giving its stand a V shaped cutout similar to those the Ent-E standing consoles had.

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  • StarscreamStarscream229 Posts: 1,049Member
    That's a relief that it's not staying all-red; you'd end up with the most aggressive command crew in the fleet after a few months of that! :lol:

    Having the bridge better lit is a good call - it already makes it look a bit bigger. :+1:

    Agree with the horseshoe update too; always felt the E-E woulda looked better with something like this arrangement... Are you going to have auxiliary consoles anywhere with the same supports; or something similar for Ops/Conn?

    Re: the Astraeus: To each their own, but slapping the harsh, angular design elements from the Sovereign on top of the Galaxy-class aesthetic doesn't work IMO - it's like adding a modern red-brick extension onto a medieval thatched cottage. ;) In Rusty's favor though, at least he's dropped the yellow deflector!
  • BolianAdmiralBolianAdmiral237 Posts: 1,637Member
    The CONN/OPS stations might be changed, but for the time being, I have asked Rekkert that he keep the ones from the Challenger, as I feel they are a nice bridge between the TNG and 1701-E styles. But they may yet change. I also intentionally wanted the Frontier to have a lower ceiling than the 1701-D. I always felt the 1701-D's ceiling was way too high, and was just a lot of wasted empty space.

    Originally, I wanted something more like the GEN Main Bridge, but I *really* dislike the ramp on the TNG set. No other ship we've seen had a ramp, and when they added the extra side stations for GEN, the sections they had to cut into the ramp into to make those sections really cut into the walking space on either side of the set, and made it feel more claustrophobic, IMO, on a set that was otherwise supposed to feel open and spacious. So I wanted the steps.
  • JMP11JMP112 Posts: 86Member
    Originally, I wanted something more like the GEN Main Bridge, but I *really* dislike the ramp on the TNG set. No other ship we've seen had a ramp, and when they added the extra side stations for GEN, the sections they had to cut into the ramp into to make those sections really cut into the walking space on either side of the set, and made it feel more claustrophobic, IMO, on a set that was otherwise supposed to feel open and spacious.

    I feel the same way about the ramps. The addition of the side stations makes it that much worst by creating an awkward ledge behind the side stations. Which forces the addition of railing as seen on the Galaxy and Astraeus bridges and makes that area feel like lost space. Hence, why I requested the Challenger have tiered bridge rather than the ramps, even though that made the horseshoe lack a particular purpose :#
  • StarscreamStarscream229 Posts: 1,049Member
    The CONN/OPS stations might be changed, but for the time being, I have asked Rekkert that he keep the ones from the Challenger, as I feel they are a nice bridge between the TNG and 1701-E styles.

    Oh, I just meant the supports underneath; they look a bit early-TNG for something that's post First Contact. Was thinking something more like the supports under the E-E corner consoles to P/S might work better. :)
    I also intentionally wanted the Frontier to have a lower ceiling than the 1701-D. I always felt the 1701-D's ceiling was way too high, and was just a lot of wasted empty space.

    Right with you on that! I've done a few concepts based on the Galaxy bridge, and more often than not I end up adding features to the ceiling (not least to get away from those skinny-ass ribs... :unamused: )
    Originally, I wanted something more like the GEN Main Bridge, but I *really* dislike the ramp on the TNG set. No other ship we've seen had a ramp, and when they added the extra side stations for GEN, the sections they had to cut into the ramp into to make those sections really cut into the walking space on either side of the set, and made it feel more claustrophobic, IMO, on a set that was otherwise supposed to feel open and spacious. So I wanted the steps.

    Bit tricky that, as the horseshoe doesn't work easily without a ramp. The only thought I have off the top of my head would be to maybe move the whole horseshoe/command area forward a few feet, and then make the steps shallower so as to have three, and space them further apart so that they follow the arc of the rail towards the rear of the bridge. :/

  • RekkertRekkert339 Buenos Aires, ArgentinaPosts: 1,572Member
    edited March 5 #1849
    Slight deviation from the topic for a bit, last week I was contacted about doing a small commission and yesterday I pretty much did it entirely. The ship's the refit Excelsior-Class USS Courageous, and the bridge is a redressed version of the everlasting Constellation set. It's pretty similar to the Potemkin, but upgraded to the First Contact color pallet.

    Originally I created an Enterprise-B style aft section for it, but we decided to return to the classic Excelsior version in the end.

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    Here's the finished version:

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  • BolianAdmiralBolianAdmiral237 Posts: 1,637Member
    Wow... nice work on the Courageous! I like the color scheme, and I've always liked the added greeblies to the TUC viewscreen.
  • ashleytingerashleytinger86 Central OhioPosts: 215Member
    Oh nice.
  • BolianAdmiralBolianAdmiral237 Posts: 1,637Member
    All this discussion about the issues with the TNG set's ramps and ceiling and whatnot has really got me thinking seriously about doing a post-Big Borg Battle update to the U.S.S. Quasar's Bridge. I'll have to see how things go with the Frontier's Main Bridge, and how it turns out first, but the more I think about it, the more I want to adapt some of the Frontier's features to the Quasar, such as the lower, flatter ceiling, and steps in the place of the ramp. I just want to make sure both bridges end up looking quite open and spacious, as both Captain Ariel and Captain Nikolayev come from much smaller ships as their previous command, Ariel coming up from a tiny Cheyenne-Class, and Nikolayev coming up from a Dominion War Yeager-Class ship, so both Captains are meant to feel like this is a huge and special step up from what they've been used to. We'll see.
  • StarscreamStarscream229 Posts: 1,049Member
    I think it'd be interesting to see a bit more utilitarian ceiling on the Galaxy-class module (one of the few elements of the E-E bridge I actually like lol). Personally I love the GEN bridge for the D, but really wish they'd pushed out the p/s consoles deeper into the wall to give them their own alcoves (and updated the Ready Room to accomodate this); the rest of it was near-perfect IMO.

    @Rekkert, it looks cozy! The E-B alcove looks great, shame you didn't keep it... The only points I'd make are that the console labels in that font are now very anachronistic, and the railing struts and steps would perhaps be better in different materials -- maybe platinum or something similarly bright for the former, and carpet for the latter. :)
  • Rusty0918Rusty0918177 Posts: 321Member
    I'm not going to request this one for now (since you did four already for me), but I already have a picture of what the USS Galaxy battle bridge would look like in 2376: it would have two side consoles for the center seat a la Defiant. The Conn and Ops would be like on the main bridge and on the Courageous bridge with the ribbed lighting. The ceiling would be inspired from the Defiant bridge and the standing consoles would look more like the console behind the command chair of the Sao Paulo aka Defiant II. Oh and the buttresses would all be Defiant style. The stardrive section of the Galaxy is basically a Defiant on steroids with four rapid fire phaser pulse cannons in her cobra section.
  • RekkertRekkert339 Buenos Aires, ArgentinaPosts: 1,572Member
    @Starscream: I also would've prefered to keep the Ent-B alcove, but in the end the Excelsior style version was chosen. The console labels are anachronistic indeed, but I do like them, their usefulness outweighs the anachronism IMO. As for the colors, I would've agreed, and I did try out some different materials, but these were chosen. :)

    More progress on the Frontier, we've decided to scrap the back end and make the 4 consoles on each side connected. The aft section is now wider and lost the steps it previously had.

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  • BolianAdmiralBolianAdmiral237 Posts: 1,637Member
    VERY nice! That row of stations looks so much better and smoother without that awkward gap between them, lol.
  • StarscreamStarscream229 Posts: 1,049Member
    @Rekkert Yep, the Ent-B alcove resulted in a much better carpet layout, too, IMO. As far as the station labels are concerned, I completely agree re: their usefulness - it's the font itself that looked out of place. :)

    Regarding this bridge, I agree with Bolian: the new arrangement looks much more sleek! :sunglasses:

    Quick thoughts:
    1) Keep the aft foyers from the Odyssey as they're more suited -and interesting- than the Excelsior "blast doors", and helps sell that it's a different setup inside the same class of bridge module.
    2) The wooden trim on the consoles is a really nice touch; love it! :+1:
    3) If you're keeping the lit pedestals for the XO/Specialist as-is, I'd suggest simpler lighting under the consoles, to avoid clashing. Maybe something like the Battle Bridge light strips?
    4) Metal pedestals would work better under the command chairs, ala the Ent-E (and to match the small seats).
  • BolianAdmiralBolianAdmiral237 Posts: 1,637Member
    @Starscream; yeah, the open foyer from the Odyssey’s aft section will be retained. Like we said, all the doors are temporary as placeholders at this point, but the aft section will remain open. I’m not going to put those stripes on the XO/Specialist console lights... I hate the way those lines look on the TNG style console lights. If I find the level of light is too much, I have a new solution in mind, but I’m fairly certain those console lights are staying as-is. The metal pedestals for the command area chairs is a good idea... we can certainly see how that looks.
    Starscream
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  • StarscreamStarscream229 Posts: 1,049Member
    edited March 5 #1859
    I admit, I'm not a fan of stripes on the pedestals myself, but it seems the only way to avoid a visual clash with the anachronistic Ent-A grills. ;)

    Glad to hear the foyers will be back! :+1: When it was mentioned before that the doors where temporary, it sounded like it was purely with regards to the signage. :)


    ETA: had an idea about the horseshoe tactical station, which may or may not appeal! Since you have an Ent-E standalone support underneath, you could always mod the tactical panel itself to include a slightly raised trapezoid like the one on the below panel:
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  • BolianAdmiralBolianAdmiral237 Posts: 1,637Member
    Starscream wrote: »
    I admit, I'm not a fan of stripes on the pedestals myself, but it seems the only way to avoid a visual clash with the anachronistic Ent-A grills. ;)

    Glad to hear the foyers will be back! :+1: When it was mentioned before that the doors where temporary, it sounded like it was purely with regards to the signage. :)

    No worries. Glad you like the wood on the station wrist-rests, too. Like I said, I have an idea for the lights, if I feel I want to change them, but I don’t see that happening. Besides... the Saratoga and Prometheus bridges on DS9 also had the TNG console lights while also having the lined floor lighting, so it fits with canon. But when it all comes down to it, I just prefer it that way.

    Regarding the doors... at this point, I’m seriously leaning towards using the Voyager-style doors, but that may change. I’m going to have to see what various doors look like with the final bridge and its colors before I make a final choice.

  • StarscreamStarscream229 Posts: 1,049Member
    Well, Saratoga was a refit-era design and made sense IMO, while Prometheus was borne out of time & budget necessity -- as was Odyssey in turn. What the everloving hell the production team thought they were doing on First Contact though, I have no idea... :unamused: Suffice to say, when it comes to canon I treat cheapness and production flubs the same way I do Star Trek V.... :lol:

    I'm intrigued as to how you'd color Voyager-style doors to fit this aesthetic... Especially with all the black and steel in them! It's given me an idea; I'll have to go and play with PS to see if it works. :+1:
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