Don't really have any issues with the guy as such (I thought Lost kind of sucked, but whatever), but the idea that the people running Star Trek are the same people who do Star Wars feels really weird.
He's not really a bad guy, IMHO. (I was joking with my lightsaber lens flare comment) He's done some stuff I like and some I don't. I thought Lost was weird, but I also didn't see the beginning and that matters on a show like that. However, I like Person of Interest and some of the other TV he's produced and some of his films. As far as him doing Star Wars, I don't know how I feel. I'll wait until I see it to decide.
Don't really have any issues with the guy as such (I thought Lost kind of sucked, but whatever), but the idea that the people running Star Trek are the same people who do Star Wars feels really weird.
Not really.
If you think about it... JJ basically turned nuTrek into Star Wars wanna-be action oriented movie.
Oh how nice would it be to actually see something akin to Star Trek the motion picture... now THAT was more in line with science fiction (and not the space battle fetish I'm seeing all over the place).
Well, I recently read an article about the "visionar director JJ Abrams"....
Guess that means another childhood memory will be cannibalised.
Agreed.
I am so sick of all these hack directors, for want of a better term, raping and "re-imagining" all these classic movies and television shows. IMHO it's just laziness, instead of coming up with their own, original material they plunder and pillage other people's work.
I knew this would happen when GL sold the franchise to disney, what the h*** was he thinking?!?!? You know we can expect SW to suddenly now take place A long time ago, in a PC galaxy far, far away...
I don't see SW movies to be preached at, and we all know they'll somehow manage to get the political BS in there along with disney's lame toilet humor and fart jokes and more muppets than you can shake a stick at.
Who keeps letting JJA direct anything? Look at that mess they called the "new" ST? Maybe they should get the "re-imagined" BSG doofus RM to come and help crap it up, since he did such a good job destroying BSG.
Why do you need to remember it fondly? I don't know about you, but I have all of the films on DVD and I have lots of Star Wars books, games and even some comics. So, even if the next 3 films suck, I'll still have Star Wars.
I knew this would happen when GL sold the franchise to disney, what the h*** was he thinking?!?!?
What was he thinking? Probably that he's 68 years old and has given 30+ years of his life to this stuff. He doesn't want to do big blockbuster films anymore, he wants to kick back, relax and do smaller scale films. He's filthy rich already and doesn't need the money, but it's still nice to have. Also, he's pledged to give half his fortune to charity, this deal means he can give more. Plus, fanboys have been pestering him to do 3 more films, which he doesn't want to do. At 3 or so years to develop and make and then 3 years in between films, (his average SW record) you're talking about at least another 9 years of his life devoted to just this one thing. I'm sure he has other things he wants to do like spend time with his family and enjoy life. So, he can hand this stuff over to younger and more interested people. Just my best guess, but that's probably what he was thinking.
There is no other director out there?????????
After what he did with ST chewiee can kiss his fury ass good bye....
This man has no sense of what make sci fi good.
SW has always been more epic (in a king arthur/fantasy kind of way) than sci fi, so let see what mess JJ can make of it.
His own stories (cloverfield, super 8) are very good but he is a wrecker when you give him some one else idea to work on.
You can expect a character design with lots of "i" something feel to it, that make no sense at all.
A millenium falcon reboot the same way the enterprise was!!!!!
Make me puke just imagining it....
RIP ST
RIP SW
I'd rather have Ridley Scott or James Cameron or any of the new "comics" directors doiing it than him!!!!
Looks like its just me who thinks this is a good idea then.
I don't think it's a bad idea. I'm interested to see what he can do with it. (I'm open minded) It's not like he's a bad director or anything. At least, not in my opinion.
What worries me more that who will direct it is what story they're going to do and who is going to play the principle characters. IMHO, those are more important concerns than who is going to direct the films.
i admit his lens flares are pretty bad, he might make a good film he might not. i will probably be able to judge that once i see the trailer. am i the only person who really likes big, cgi space battles?
am i the only person who really likes big, cgi space battles?
Doesn't everybody? I don't know about you, but I can watch the first few minutes of ROTS over and over again. In fact, I have done that, just to see what all I could spot that I missed in previous viewings.
It's funny seeing people talk so much about JJ Abrams using CGI, when George Lucas tends to use way more CGI than JJ Abrams does. At least JJ builds sets. Lucasfilm built 2 sets for ROTS, (Anakin's apartment is one, I forget the other) the rest of the movie was shot entirely on green screen with CGI backgrounds. Meanwhile, for Star Trek, (2009) they did everything they could possibly do in the real world. All of the interiors were sets or building interiors, the ice planet (Delta Vega *shudders*) was a set, they only used CGI for the stuff that they literally couldn't do. Why do you think they used a water treatment plant for some of the Enterprise interiors? So, why are people using CGI like it's a dirty word when the latest 3 Star Wars films have loads of it?
Like Bill Shatner said: "They could be naked on the set of Star Wars and the costumes were added later with CGI." (I may not have gotten the exact wording, but you get the idea) And, yes, he's correct, because the clonetroopers without helmets were the actors filmed in body suits with the armor added later with CGI.
The only things that really bug me about JJ are the lens flares. But, at least they're real flares. He has people intentionally hold lights off camera to create them, they're not added in post.
Doesn't everybody? I don't know about you, but I can watch the first few minutes of ROTS over and over again. In fact, I have done that, just to see what all I could spot that I missed in previous viewings.
Actually, I don't.
At one point they were ok, but the amount of 'space battles' in scifi these days is tiresome.
Its just shoot to kill, shoot to kill, kill, kill, explode - and that's their solution to EVERYTHING (that's what the entire movie basically comes down to).
Its idiotic and mind-numbing - no wonder I stopped watching TV and movies 9 years ago completely.
Doesn't everybody? I don't know about you, but I can watch the first few minutes of ROTS over and over again. In fact, I have done that, just to see what all I could spot that I missed in previous viewings.
It's funny seeing people talk so much about JJ Abrams using CGI, when George Lucas tends to use way more CGI than JJ Abrams does. At least JJ builds sets. Lucasfilm built 2 sets for ROTS, (Anakin's apartment is one, I forget the other) the rest of the movie was shot entirely on green screen with CGI backgrounds. Meanwhile, for Star Trek, (2009) they did everything they could possibly do in the real world. All of the interiors were sets or building interiors, the ice planet (Delta Vega *shudders*) was a set, they only used CGI for the stuff that they literally couldn't do. Why do you think they used a water treatment plant for some of the Enterprise interiors? So, why are people using CGI like it's a dirty word when the latest 3 Star Wars films have loads of it?
Like Bill Shatner said: "They could be naked on the set of Star Wars and the costumes were added later with CGI." (I may not have gotten the exact wording, but you get the idea) And, yes, he's correct, because the clonetroopers without helmets were the actors filmed in body suits with the armor added later with CGI.
The only things that really bug me about JJ are the lens flares. But, at least they're real flares. He has people intentionally hold lights off camera to create them, they're not added in post.
yeah i think that the battle sequence at the start of revenge of the sith is one of the best pieces of film i have ever seen, interesting that they avoided cgi so heavily in the star trek(the modern one)film. wouldn't they perhaps do better to use somewhat more of it?
At least JJ Admits he overdid the flares in Star Trek. There are times, especially on the bridge of the Enterprise, where it literally about hurts my eyes. I've seen some of his other films and they have flares, but not that bad.
As for the latest Bayformers debacle, the plot is actually solid. In fact, it's so good that it's one of my favorite episodes of the classic TV series from the 1980s, the epic 3-part episode, The Ultimate Doom. That's right, they didn't even use an original plot. I liked the parts of the film that focused on the Transformers and their plot, but most of the parts that focused on Sam and the other humans were dreadful. I'd like to re-cut that film, I'd take out about an hour of it. :shiner: (but, enough about that garbage)
Actually, I don't.
At one point they were ok, but the amount of 'space battles' in scifi these days is tiresome.
Its just shoot to kill, shoot to kill, kill, kill, explode - and that's their solution to EVERYTHING (that's what the entire movie basically comes down to).
Its idiotic and mind-numbing - no wonder I stopped watching TV and movies 9 years ago completely.
Asked and answered.
So, in that case, you probably don't care who directs the next SW film.
Me, I love movies and I do watch some TV (mostly sports and primetime.) I love epic battles. Though, I do prefer when they're done with as little CGI as possible, or none at all. The epic space battles in the original Star Wars trilogy, for example, are awesome.
Looks like its just me who thinks this is a good idea then.
I'm with you on it. I really don't understand the JJ hate, especially in light of how crappy the prequels were. JJ is way better for this role than the other rumored directors that have come up.
People have selective memory when it comes to the quality of star wars film after ESB and star trek films in general.
That's so true. After all, it's not like everything George Lucas did was gold. Many people hate Jar-Jar Binks to this day. He fracked up the original trilogy and refused to do a new digitally remastered release of the original films, from prior to the 1997 "special editions." (hopefully, Disney will reverse that decision and do a Blu-Ray release of the original films)
As for Star Trek films, I like the 2009 JJ Abrams film as well as I like Generations, Insurrection, Nemesis, (pretty much all of them with a single word, subtitle. ) Which is to say, I like it but I don't love it. A lot of people don't like Nemesis, didn't like Enterprise, and were whining about how the franchise needed someone new to take over and needed a rework/reboot, whatever. Then that finally happened and they whine about it too. (you can't win with these people)
But, I digress. You can't change peoples' minds and I wouldn't presume to try. Me, I'm looking forward to seeing what JJ can do with Star Wars. Some of his decisions will likely thrill people, while others will make them cry. But, realistically, it was not any different with George's prequel trilogy.
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Not really.
If you think about it... JJ basically turned nuTrek into Star Wars wanna-be action oriented movie.
Oh how nice would it be to actually see something akin to Star Trek the motion picture... now THAT was more in line with science fiction (and not the space battle fetish I'm seeing all over the place).
Agreed.
I am so sick of all these hack directors, for want of a better term, raping and "re-imagining" all these classic movies and television shows. IMHO it's just laziness, instead of coming up with their own, original material they plunder and pillage other people's work.
I knew this would happen when GL sold the franchise to disney, what the h*** was he thinking?!?!? You know we can expect SW to suddenly now take place A long time ago, in a PC galaxy far, far away...
I don't see SW movies to be preached at, and we all know they'll somehow manage to get the political BS in there along with disney's lame toilet humor and fart jokes and more muppets than you can shake a stick at.
Who keeps letting JJA direct anything? Look at that mess they called the "new" ST? Maybe they should get the "re-imagined" BSG doofus RM to come and help crap it up, since he did such a good job destroying BSG.
Goodbye SW, I will remember you fondly.
What was he thinking? Probably that he's 68 years old and has given 30+ years of his life to this stuff. He doesn't want to do big blockbuster films anymore, he wants to kick back, relax and do smaller scale films. He's filthy rich already and doesn't need the money, but it's still nice to have. Also, he's pledged to give half his fortune to charity, this deal means he can give more. Plus, fanboys have been pestering him to do 3 more films, which he doesn't want to do. At 3 or so years to develop and make and then 3 years in between films, (his average SW record) you're talking about at least another 9 years of his life devoted to just this one thing. I'm sure he has other things he wants to do like spend time with his family and enjoy life. So, he can hand this stuff over to younger and more interested people. Just my best guess, but that's probably what he was thinking.
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After what he did with ST chewiee can kiss his fury ass good bye....
This man has no sense of what make sci fi good.
SW has always been more epic (in a king arthur/fantasy kind of way) than sci fi, so let see what mess JJ can make of it.
His own stories (cloverfield, super 8) are very good but he is a wrecker when you give him some one else idea to work on.
You can expect a character design with lots of "i" something feel to it, that make no sense at all.
A millenium falcon reboot the same way the enterprise was!!!!!
Make me puke just imagining it....
RIP ST
RIP SW
I'd rather have Ridley Scott or James Cameron or any of the new "comics" directors doiing it than him!!!!
I don't think it's a bad idea. I'm interested to see what he can do with it. (I'm open minded) It's not like he's a bad director or anything. At least, not in my opinion.
What worries me more that who will direct it is what story they're going to do and who is going to play the principle characters. IMHO, those are more important concerns than who is going to direct the films.
i admit his lens flares are pretty bad, he might make a good film he might not. i will probably be able to judge that once i see the trailer. am i the only person who really likes big, cgi space battles?
Doesn't everybody? I don't know about you, but I can watch the first few minutes of ROTS over and over again. In fact, I have done that, just to see what all I could spot that I missed in previous viewings.
It's funny seeing people talk so much about JJ Abrams using CGI, when George Lucas tends to use way more CGI than JJ Abrams does. At least JJ builds sets. Lucasfilm built 2 sets for ROTS, (Anakin's apartment is one, I forget the other) the rest of the movie was shot entirely on green screen with CGI backgrounds. Meanwhile, for Star Trek, (2009) they did everything they could possibly do in the real world. All of the interiors were sets or building interiors, the ice planet (Delta Vega *shudders*) was a set, they only used CGI for the stuff that they literally couldn't do. Why do you think they used a water treatment plant for some of the Enterprise interiors? So, why are people using CGI like it's a dirty word when the latest 3 Star Wars films have loads of it?
Like Bill Shatner said: "They could be naked on the set of Star Wars and the costumes were added later with CGI." (I may not have gotten the exact wording, but you get the idea) And, yes, he's correct, because the clonetroopers without helmets were the actors filmed in body suits with the armor added later with CGI.
The only things that really bug me about JJ are the lens flares. But, at least they're real flares. He has people intentionally hold lights off camera to create them, they're not added in post.
Actually, I don't.
At one point they were ok, but the amount of 'space battles' in scifi these days is tiresome.
Its just shoot to kill, shoot to kill, kill, kill, explode - and that's their solution to EVERYTHING (that's what the entire movie basically comes down to).
Its idiotic and mind-numbing - no wonder I stopped watching TV and movies 9 years ago completely.
As for the latest Bayformers debacle, the plot is actually solid. In fact, it's so good that it's one of my favorite episodes of the classic TV series from the 1980s, the epic 3-part episode, The Ultimate Doom. That's right, they didn't even use an original plot. I liked the parts of the film that focused on the Transformers and their plot, but most of the parts that focused on Sam and the other humans were dreadful. I'd like to re-cut that film, I'd take out about an hour of it. :shiner: (but, enough about that garbage)
Asked and answered.
So, in that case, you probably don't care who directs the next SW film.
Me, I love movies and I do watch some TV (mostly sports and primetime.) I love epic battles. Though, I do prefer when they're done with as little CGI as possible, or none at all. The epic space battles in the original Star Wars trilogy, for example, are awesome.
I'm with you on it. I really don't understand the JJ hate, especially in light of how crappy the prequels were. JJ is way better for this role than the other rumored directors that have come up.
That's so true. After all, it's not like everything George Lucas did was gold. Many people hate Jar-Jar Binks to this day. He fracked up the original trilogy and refused to do a new digitally remastered release of the original films, from prior to the 1997 "special editions." (hopefully, Disney will reverse that decision and do a Blu-Ray release of the original films)
As for Star Trek films, I like the 2009 JJ Abrams film as well as I like Generations, Insurrection, Nemesis, (pretty much all of them with a single word, subtitle. ) Which is to say, I like it but I don't love it. A lot of people don't like Nemesis, didn't like Enterprise, and were whining about how the franchise needed someone new to take over and needed a rework/reboot, whatever. Then that finally happened and they whine about it too. (you can't win with these people)
But, I digress. You can't change peoples' minds and I wouldn't presume to try. Me, I'm looking forward to seeing what JJ can do with Star Wars. Some of his decisions will likely thrill people, while others will make them cry. But, realistically, it was not any different with George's prequel trilogy.
easy. jj made the film.
if it would have been ridley scott, they would hate ridley scott.