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  • GuerrillaGuerrilla699 HelsinkiPosts: 2,761Administrator
    Well, one episode left. Yakuzalores didn't have a whole lot to do in the end. Think they'll do something with their pearl? Halores turning against the others make a degree of sense, since you know Hale and Dolores can both be pretty ruthless, but you'd think her beef is mainly with Serac, so tipping off team Maeve is a little weird. Clementine and Hanaryo kicked ass though. Not sure why pick Hanaryo over Armistice, but anyway :p

    So, if there is indeed one Dolores still unaccounted for, she's the one in Berlin, right? The other encrypted devices mentioned a couple of episodes ago were in Jakarta (Yakuzalores), San Francisco (Halores), LA (Connels and Dolores), and Berlin.

    I hope Bernard and Stubbs have more to do than random exposition dumps. I'm also kinda hoping that William turns out not to be the protagonist of this story he thinks he is, but things don't seem to be heading that way. Injecting a protein/virus/thingy into Willian to hack into the facility's database to get Caleb's records was some pretty clever writing though. Would be a neat twist if that turned out to be William's only purpose in the season.

    Maeve vs Dolores was pretty fun, even if their little and big drone helpers were a little inconsistent with their deadliness for the sake of the plot. Wonder if an EMP kills hosts or just shuts them down. I'm guessing Solomon is gone, but what happened to all the frozen people in the basement? Are they all dead now?

    The parallels between the maintenance robots and the drone hosts wandering the premises, cold storage and the outliers in coffins and the interviews between hosts and personnel and Caleb and the shrink were maybe a little heavyhanded, but still kinda neat. Like both the organic and the digital sides of the argument actually have quite a lot in common. I don't think anyone was really surprised by the whole Rehoboam running Rico app (and crime in general) as a method to control troublesome outliers.

    So, how's Caleb going to destroy the world? Or did he actually generate a plan to kill Serac? Think all of this will get sorted in one episode, or are we looking at a major cliffhanger? Season 4 has been confirmed, but people are speculating it will be the final one.

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  • sorceress21sorceress21268 Posts: 577Member
    EXCELLENT SEASON FINALE!!!

    Frankly it was vastly better then I expected. I'm so glad my Delores being the hero theory played true and I was half right about Serac. Evan Rachel Wood is just too damn hot to be a bad guy. Super glad she's signed on for Season 4.
  • GuerrillaGuerrilla699 HelsinkiPosts: 2,761Administrator
    I was plenty entertained through the whole thing, but looking at it just a little more carefully reveals that the whole thing isn't terribly deep or well thought out. Like the whole setting people free from their loops is pretty much what went on in season 1 in the park. Serac's creation had outgrown him much like Ford's, Caleb was confused about who he is kinda like Bernard and so on. I'm a little confused by Dolores's big plan. Like what was the actual thing that was supposed to happen, if all went as planned? Caleb plugs in the futuristic USB stick deletes Rehoboam and triggers the mass extinction event anyway? But it's to set humanity free? Also, Dolores's big sacrifice is a little less impressive, since there's one perfectly good Lawlores running around with a bunch of explosives. I was sort of half expecting a piano cover of Where is my Mind in the end instead of Brain Damage but I guess Mr Robot already did that. :p

    Like I'm mostly ok with Dolores changing her mind about humanity, I just think her reasons could've used a little more set up. Also, she did plenty of murdering in the episode, so the hopeful humanity's ok end note feels a little dissonant. Was cool to see her in (on?) an old school robot body from before they made the hosts squishy.

    Bernard had stuff to do (you know, insted attending Stubb's pretty significant looking medical emergency :p) but it feels like they only included him for the big reveal that he has the key in his head. It's a pretty good twist though, and I did enjoy their little side quests, and would've like to see more.

    Serac's twist was pretty good, if not completely surprising, but they didn't really have time to do too much with it. Wonder if he'll be back. For a minute I thought Maeve was communicating directly with Rehoboam, which would've been pretty neat.

    The real interesting bits happened after the credits. William got more or less what he deserved, and now we have a proper Gunslinger antagonist just like the movie :D I'm glad he didn't get to save the world, or be a protagonist in this story. Think Halores is going for a replace all humans play, like Futureworld? Would make sense, she's very familiar with that playbook. Why did she bother tipping off Bernard and Stubbs about William though? Apart from shooting Stubbs, and giving the viewers a little exposition, it's not like he did anything particularly useful to Halores. She could've just as well marched into the institution and killed him there, but I admit that probably wouldn't have been as fun for the audience.

    Bernard's scene implies a time jump. Think we're in MadMaxworld now? :p
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  • sorceress21sorceress21268 Posts: 577Member
    edited May 2020 #35
    A time jump yes, but how long of one? Any surface in a non maintained building would only take months to accumulate that much dust and dirt. Especially in Southern California with all the wind storms and fires. Let's not forget Bernard is the new type of host with biological skin that bleeds. If this was too long of a period, well, he would have rotted! And just because that building wasn't maintained doesn't necessarily imply a total Mad Max styled existence. It just means no one bothered to go in that room.

    Could be decades, or just a year or two. We won't know until probably 2022 because of Coronavirus sadly. Just about every show will be delayed several months now. We'll all be in "show hole" repeat city for the most part until the end of 2021 I suspect.
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  • GuerrillaGuerrilla699 HelsinkiPosts: 2,761Administrator
    Westworld seasons always take 2 years, so we might be looking at longer than that. On the other hand it's nice to have some time to catch up on all the shows.

    Terminatorworld is also an option... :p

    Wonder if they're going to do anything with space. Maybe they showed those rockets earlier in the season for a reason?
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  • sorceress21sorceress21268 Posts: 577Member
    edited May 2020 #37
    There's a couple scifi franchises out there where humans are spacefaring but we never see it on screen other than small hints letting us know its there.

    The Blade Runner Franchise is the example I'd like to see. We know by the events of 2049 most humans had left Earth. There's talk of a 3rd installment so perhaps we'll see it eventually. It is in the books. Dekard winds up on Mars and RHs character Roy Batty established that interstellar travel through some kind of "jump gate" system is in the Blade Runner universe is canon..."Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate"

    Also the film "Soldier", though not widely known, was actually taking place in the Blade Runner verse so technically, we have actually seen it.
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  • GuerrillaGuerrilla699 HelsinkiPosts: 2,761Administrator
    Also the film "Soldier", though not widely known, was actually taking place in the Blade Runner verse so technically, we have actually seen it.

    The Kurt Russell flick? I remember the trailer had a good song in it, but don't remember what it was now. I did actually see it, but never made any connection to Blade Runner.
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  • sorceress21sorceress21268 Posts: 577Member
    Guerrilla wrote: »
    Also the film "Soldier", though not widely known, was actually taking place in the Blade Runner verse so technically, we have actually seen it.

    The Kurt Russell flick? I remember the trailer had a good song in it, but don't remember what it was now. I did actually see it, but never made any connection to Blade Runner.

    Yep, that's the one.

    https://bladerunner.fandom.com/wiki/Soldier
  • FreakFreak1078 Posts: 4,355Member
    finally saw the late episode, it was okay but not great, I was expecting more than what we got.

    I hate what they did to William though. I am curious to know if Hale was able to get around the problem of human mind clasping in a Host and it is actually a copy of his Mind from the park? If not then that raises the question of who is it?

    As for Mev's back up, what happened to them? we only saw them in one episode and that was it. Where did they go?


    Soldier is a fun, film though you can see it was made on the cheap. I forgot it is an unofficial sequel/ Prequel to Blade Runner.
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